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Thursday, November 19th 2015, 10:36pm

Predicting RT-97C for meta.
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Thursday, November 19th 2015, 10:46pm

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Thursday, November 19th 2015, 11:04pm

Predicting RT-97C for meta.

Explosive Shot Meta?



DLT-19 seems a solid bet as well with its miniscule SIPS. On the other hand the RT-97C has much lower h-rec, but with explosive shot it's basically quantity over quality anyway.

Honestly though, the A280C, E-11, DL-44 and EE-3 seem quite competitive to me - especially if you're a god of aiming and hit the head.
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Of course, this ignores the non-constant cross-sectional first moment of area across the chest as well as non-constant material properties of the boob; it would be difficult to perform a more detailed analysis (as in, I'd have to have a shape function AND I'd need to derive a function for elastic modulus as a function of lateral breast coordinate) but whatever. It's 2am and I'm lazy.


I always believed science should be very hands on experience.

You should also answer this question I had posed in that thread: Would you be willing to pay your surgeon more if he was going to use a chainsaw for the opening incision of surgery? Clearly using a chainsaw isn't truly suited for surgery but that doesn't really matter. If he's "skilled" enough to be able to use the wrong tools of the trade, he should be rewarded for that skill right?


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Thursday, November 19th 2015, 11:10pm



DLT-19 seems a solid bet as well with its miniscule SIPS.



That is what I was implying.

Also, DLT-19 is inferior when you compare it to the RT-97C.

RT has better damage model, better minspread, and better Hrec.

DLT-19 is a shadow of its former self with 0.5 minspread and .025 SIPS. Used to be 0.1 minspread and .0125 SIPS.



RT-97C is the new meta. The reduction in Hrec outweighs the increase in SIPS.

Now to wait for Miffyli to upload explosive shot damage models.

inb4 BF3 USAS-12 FRAG @ 600 RPM with infinite ammo.
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Thursday, November 19th 2015, 11:14pm

I think the USAS' frag rounds had more damage and a far larger radius, but it's conceptually quite similar, yes. Allegedly the explosive shots' damage depends on the weapon's rate of fire, but higher RoF weapons still ought benefit a whole lot more.
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Of course, this ignores the non-constant cross-sectional first moment of area across the chest as well as non-constant material properties of the boob; it would be difficult to perform a more detailed analysis (as in, I'd have to have a shape function AND I'd need to derive a function for elastic modulus as a function of lateral breast coordinate) but whatever. It's 2am and I'm lazy.


I always believed science should be very hands on experience.

You should also answer this question I had posed in that thread: Would you be willing to pay your surgeon more if he was going to use a chainsaw for the opening incision of surgery? Clearly using a chainsaw isn't truly suited for surgery but that doesn't really matter. If he's "skilled" enough to be able to use the wrong tools of the trade, he should be rewarded for that skill right?


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Thursday, November 19th 2015, 11:27pm

Now to wait for Miffyli to upload explosive shot damage models.

Explosion itself seems to stay same for most of the weapons (went through most "ClusterShots", not all of them tho). However projectile itself is also updated so it might change direct hit dmg.

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CA-87 with explosive shots... mmmm.....
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  • Miffyli - Random statistical analysis of BF4 battlereports/players and kill-distances. (list is cluttered with other threads).
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Thursday, November 19th 2015, 11:35pm

Yeah... okay...

So if I read this right the DLT-19 (example, me lazy) gets the same 17-15 damage profile plus a 1m radius 10 damage explosion on each shot at 600 RPM.

The DL-44 gets its same 50-19 damage profile plus an AMAZING 1m radiums 10 damage explosion on each shot at 250 RPM.

Way to go.
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Of course, this ignores the non-constant cross-sectional first moment of area across the chest as well as non-constant material properties of the boob; it would be difficult to perform a more detailed analysis (as in, I'd have to have a shape function AND I'd need to derive a function for elastic modulus as a function of lateral breast coordinate) but whatever. It's 2am and I'm lazy.


I always believed science should be very hands on experience.

You should also answer this question I had posed in that thread: Would you be willing to pay your surgeon more if he was going to use a chainsaw for the opening incision of surgery? Clearly using a chainsaw isn't truly suited for surgery but that doesn't really matter. If he's "skilled" enough to be able to use the wrong tools of the trade, he should be rewarded for that skill right?


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Friday, November 20th 2015, 10:36am

Way to go.

Dunno if really a balance issue because there are other cards that don't fit for other weapons. Eg. focused fire is borderline pointless with blaster rifles (E-11 etc) but very handy with DLT-19.
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  • Miffyli - Random statistical analysis of BF4 battlereports/players and kill-distances. (list is cluttered with other threads).
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Friday, November 20th 2015, 12:38pm

So apart from the cards that are independent from the blaster, is there a star card that is more beneficial to the slower blaster rifles than the fast firing ones or are those the only ones that synergize?
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Of course, this ignores the non-constant cross-sectional first moment of area across the chest as well as non-constant material properties of the boob; it would be difficult to perform a more detailed analysis (as in, I'd have to have a shape function AND I'd need to derive a function for elastic modulus as a function of lateral breast coordinate) but whatever. It's 2am and I'm lazy.


I always believed science should be very hands on experience.

You should also answer this question I had posed in that thread: Would you be willing to pay your surgeon more if he was going to use a chainsaw for the opening incision of surgery? Clearly using a chainsaw isn't truly suited for surgery but that doesn't really matter. If he's "skilled" enough to be able to use the wrong tools of the trade, he should be rewarded for that skill right?


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Friday, November 20th 2015, 3:07pm

How does the focus fire work specifically? Looking at it in the data browser I can see it looks like it reduces the min and max spread, SIPS and recoil too, but is it to a set value or a multiplier of the weapons stats?