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Sunday, August 30th 2015, 1:30am

Religion Arguments

Please continue the arguments from the "Religion of Symthic" thread here. I wanted to keep arguments out of that thread.

If making any claims (except obvious ones like "religion is popular around the world," etc) please provide evidence/sources. Anecdotal is welcomed, but will not be treated as fact.

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And if there's no facts, you find those facts, or you ditch the "theory." Simple as that

There are things you can't prove with current technology and modern science. That doesn't mean they aren't real.

Correct. That doesn't mean they should be treated as fact. It also means that in the meantime, they shouldn't be given much credibility. Sure, philosophers may discuss it, but if it lies outside if the realms of science (which very little does anymore) it shouldn't be actively discussed as though it is fact. It is little more than a corollary.

Evidence should be actively sought out for it, however, and the moment it is proved, I'll believe it. Until then, I will assume that there is no God. I will also make sure that the world knows the lack of evidence.

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Sunday, August 30th 2015, 1:57am

Evidence should be actively sought out for it, however, and the moment it is proved, I'll believe it. Until then, I will assume that there is no God. I will also make sure that the world knows the lack of evidence.

And if there's no facts, you find those facts, or you ditch the "theory." Simple as that


What are the facts that support your theory that there is no God, and if you don't have them, how do you intend to find them?
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The universe in its current form does not require a god, as far as physics is concerned. Many common stories associated with religion tell stories that run completely contrary to what can be observed of the known universe. This, barring the case of a 'tampering god' (see, for example, the Flying Spaghetti Monster which actively interferes with scientists' instruments) discounts the majority of extant religions.

This ignores, say, a god which exists outside of any existing religion, which is where I'm going next.

Why, then, is there not a god? The universe runs perfectly well (from a physics standpoint) without some kind of intervening celestial force. This intervening celestial force has left no tracks of any noticeable kind. If you are to propose an intervening god, this simply does not match what we observe with the known universe.

The last potential existence is an observer god which does not actively muddle with the universe. Such a being, with no impact on reality, goes very far against what is commonly considered a 'god' in commonly accepted use of the word. I've heard of universe-worship existing in this vein but don't know much about it.

A lack of evidence is, from the point of view of most scientists, a good enough reason to discount something (until, of course, such a time as evidence is found). Theorizing and trying to find it is perfectly acceptable but "false until through peer review" is the most logical way to do things--otherwise, "it's true because I said so" becomes the dominant mentality and things fall apart.

My mind views things in that "false until through peer review" state--I guess the manner of how I think precludes the existence of god.

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Another interesting question if we wear this one out--what, exactly, IS a god? How do we define what one is? "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."--Arthur C. Clarke. What is magic or similar impossible forces and what is technology? If a being popped onto Earth's surface randomly, how would we tell if they were a god or an alien?
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Sunday, August 30th 2015, 2:29am

Please continue the arguments from the "Religion of Symthic" thread here.

This entire section is arguments, good luck with that.

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Sunday, August 30th 2015, 3:34am

If I say there is a teapot floating in space between the Earth and Mars, it's not your job to disprove it, but mine to back up my claim. If you are going to claim there is a God, it's not on me to disprove you, but on you to prove it. Simple.

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Sunday, August 30th 2015, 4:16am

tbh, why do you care what other people think?

As I've said before, if a God could be proven to exist, then it wouldn't be faith, now would it?

Trying to prove/disprove or asking anyone to do that is pointless because that's not the point of religion in the first place.

Believing in something that can be observed or proven is very, very easy.

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Sunday, August 30th 2015, 4:17am

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If I say there is a teapot floating in space between the Earth and Mars, it's not your job to disprove it, but mine to back up my claim. If you are going to claim there is a God, it's not on me to disprove you, but on you to prove it. Simple.

Russel's teapot. On of my favorites.

Personally, I'm more in favor of the Epicurean argument, as many theists say "well science can't prove anything wrong!" So I am forced to use a moral argument, which usually makes sense with polytheistic religions, but with monotheistic ones it's ridiculous.

Your one, all-powerful God can't stop flesh-eating diseases? Childhood cancer? Serial child molesters? Well, regardless of whether it exists or not, it's not worthy of my worship.

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Sunday, August 30th 2015, 4:25am

If I say there is a teapot floating in space between the Earth and Mars, it's not your job to disprove it, but mine to back up my claim. If you are going to claim there is a God, it's not on me to disprove you, but on you to prove it. Simple.

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If I say there is a teapot floating in space between the Earth and Mars, it's not your job to disprove it, but mine to back up my claim. If you are going to claim there is a God, it's not on me to disprove you, but on you to prove it. Simple.

Russel's teapot. On of my favorites.

Personally, I'm more in favor of the Epicurean argument, as many theists say "well science can't prove anything wrong!" So I am forced to use a moral argument, which usually makes sense with polytheistic religions, but with monotheistic ones it's ridiculous.

Your one, all-powerful God can't stop flesh-eating diseases? Childhood cancer? Serial child molesters? Well, regardless of whether it exists or not, it's not worthy of my worship.

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You've probably heard the phrase, "God works in mysterious ways," right?

I've seen it poked fun of a lot, but there's a whole lot more to it than what is superficially perceived. I'll translate it.

"How in the FUCK can anyone claim to be able to understand, religious or not, the actions, motives, or objectives of an omnipresent, omniscient being which would, as our creator, transcend any and all of humanity's puny comprehension?

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