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Saturday, August 29th 2015, 12:09pm

"wtf is Donald Trump"

well that's a fun thing to say as i know nothing of american politics and barely something about italy's politics(only know that italians want to get out of the euro and that salvini wants to become a pacifistical hitler or something like that)


so yeah, afaik, i shouldn't even be making a comment here unless someone wants to give me atl;dr of all that really matters(nick's post ain't enough as i don't have clear in mind what left and right means)

Left & Right are two old political terms. Nowadays they are, without question, absolutely outdated. But people remain to use them for the sake of 1) Keeping things basic 2) For people that are working on outdated information. Usually nowaday's parties almost always use mix of standpoints from both sides, and something inbetween, as to come to an equilibrium that they deem ethically perfect.

A left-wing party will stereotypically aim towards:
- Increased tax as to allow a social system where everyone is 'insured'. Lose your job? Don't worry, you paid taxes. We'll cover for you (Just prove to us that you're currently working to find a job). Got cancer? There's no need to start producing industrial quantities of crystal meth, everything will be paid for (with maybe a few exceptions on small expenses). Basically, a mindset of 'we pay for this together, so we can all benefit from this!'.
- Lessening the difference in income between two extremes. I.E. Keep the difference between low-tier and god-tier job incomes relatively small.
- Economical influence from the government as to allow things to 'stabilize'
- Little police presence. People aren't, not all of them, demons. Keep it within limits that are deemed necessary however.

A Right-wing party will stereotypically aim towards:
- Less tax. You are responsible for yourself, be smart with the money you get.
- Bigger difference in income. You worked to get higher up, you deserve it.
- No influence from the government. Let the economy work itself out, no matter the results.
- Frequent police presence. Make sure to keep things regulated.

Keep in mind though that this is a very, VERY, banal and basic description though (and should not be used as a source to start a debate...). But it should give you a general global idea.
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Hardline is a fun and sometimes silly Cops and Robbers sorta thing and I think that's great. Or it would be if it didn't suck.

>littlebird passanger, semi-auto frag rounds
>gunship OP

Meanwhile at DICE-headquarters during BF4's release:

I'm pretty sure there's a massive post-it on every desk "DON'T FUCKING TOUCH ANYTHING THAT IS ACTUALLY DOING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOING"

UCAV:
"Hey guys remember how stupid prenerf mav was?"

"Lets add c4 to it."

The World Champion went to China once.

They called me a Gweilo.

So I kicked a big fucking hole in their wall and let all the Mongolians in.

just thought I'd share.


The thought of Assaults running out of ACE 23 rounds mid firefight, Engineers facing the rear of an unaware MBT with no rockets left, Recons unable to...Whatever the fuck they do. These are the things that keep me up at night ;(


About hunturk:
I don't know what's funnier, the video itself of the fact that an unlisted video has more views than most of your normal videos :P

...


You just live to hit people upside the noggin with a Math Bomb, don't you?

[context] Maybe it's the UK's overly aggressive porn filter at work. After all, it does have the word "monkey" in it and monkeys have been known to have sex so...


Previously, at DICE HQ:
"Ok guys, the password is "epic dream worlds"; everyone take a letter and do your best to turn it into into something random that we can put into a picture!"


I assume a functional game (BF4) also.

Aww!
*pinches cheeks*
So cute!


But but but

He's a Youtuber ;(

There's no way he doesn't know what he's talking about

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Saturday, August 29th 2015, 12:11pm

i don't have clear in mind what left and right means

It's left-wing and right-wing politics.
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How to ice an A-91

Next, wanna try adding a guy that you KNOW is bad, and just testing to see that? Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

PP-2000 added. Y'know, it's not that bad....

Yes, it comes in last so far, but that is mostly because I'm making it shoot at 100m ADS - Not Moving as one of the criteria. Even then, between 50-100m Not Moving, when you include Useability, it is only 1.37% worse than the MTAR-21. Within 50m then it even beats the A-91.

Have a look, vs. the A-91 Carbine:




Using it with Muzzle Brake and Compensator is a wash in terms of overall performance. Comp is SLIGHTLY more accurate, while MB is SLIGHTLY more easy to use. Their overall scores are basically tied, with MB just ahead. I guess either can be recommended.

But... You can't be counting for the fact that it takes 9 bullets to kill at "long" range... Don't you dare tell me my A-91 is worse than a 9 BTK 650 RPM mediocre PDW.

Also. Just go heavy barrel. The recoil is low enough.

Well, technically...

Comparing a PP2K with HB and an A-91 with comp and stubby (as you suggested in an earlier post), at 50m not moving, the A-91 is only better by 4 damage per hitrate. While at 75m and 100m, surprisingly the PP2K does better than the A-91 (I'm pretty damn surprised as well).

And 10m and 50m moving the PP2K also does more damage per hitrate than the A-91. At 25m the A-91 is only better by about half a bullet's damage as well.

In addition, the PP2K has a much larger mag size and substantially less recoil. And it looks hella awesome. So comparing the A-91 to a PDW is of some worth after all, as the PP2K is better (technically, not practically) than the A-91.

Mind blown.

I... I...

*cries in a corner*

Zer0Cod3x explained it very well. If you look at the raw numbers right here on Symthic Comparison, you can see how that happened:

A-91 vs PP-2000 | BF4 Weapon Comparison | Symthic

A-91's "23%" RPM advantage only afforded it 1 extra round.

Reload times are wash.

Velocities are wash.

V-Recoil are wash (and this is HBar on PP2k vs. A-91 without).

Hipfire and ADS - Moving are better on the PP2k, but it's a PDW and not the surprising part.

The surprising part is that, as equipped (and we see above that PP2k HBar has almost same V-Recoil as A-91 without HBar so why not?), the PDW performs better at 50 - 100m than a bloody Carbine. Why?

H-Recoil Spread, 0.525 vs. 0.45, advantage PP2k.

SIPS, 42% better on the PP2k.

And here is the most important part. ADS - Not Moving Spread, 0.35 vs. 0.2, 43% improvement.

Without HBar then of course the PP2k loses, which is why when I add all the attachments together for an Overall Ranking, it would slot below the A-91. Run HBar on it, though, then... I'm sorry

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I AM HAVING AN EXISTENTIAL CRISIS IN SCHOOL BECAUSE OF YOU TWO.

FUCK YOU NERDS AND YOUR FANCY NUMBERS

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In all seriousness, thank you both so much for giving me the numbers. I still don't want to accept them. You have led the horse to water. I still need to drink.


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Saturday, August 29th 2015, 12:16pm

i start to see things more clearly now... it also makes me understand that my own country is mainly left, but it doesn't really work out extremely good due to the politicians...


this also make me understand how everyone is an extremist, why can't people see that going for the middle is the best thing? there are positives and negatives on both sides... for example i would never live in the usa due to the medical insurance which isn't paid by the government, but on the other hand the income with a normal job is quite high compared italy, but then, italy is a "comfortable place" as long as you have a stable job... if really they would try to make a working hybrid of politics, i think most people in said country would benefit from that, but then again, i don't know the requirements needed for something like that to work out.

also that thing about police and gun control etc... should we make a thread for that? i remember we once reached a pretty good final statement with that conversation, but it got lost in the thousands of pages of the original thread.
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Saturday, August 29th 2015, 12:18pm

this also make me understand how everyone is an extremist, why can't people see that going for the middle is the best thing? there are positives and negatives on both sides...

Usually that's due to people that are completely oblivious about the system and are being manipulated by the media and/or other outer sources.
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Spoiler Spoiler

Just realized it's 4/20 tomorrow


Thanks for the heads up!
*Logs out of Symthic in preparation*

Hardline is a fun and sometimes silly Cops and Robbers sorta thing and I think that's great. Or it would be if it didn't suck.

>littlebird passanger, semi-auto frag rounds
>gunship OP

Meanwhile at DICE-headquarters during BF4's release:

I'm pretty sure there's a massive post-it on every desk "DON'T FUCKING TOUCH ANYTHING THAT IS ACTUALLY DOING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOING"

UCAV:
"Hey guys remember how stupid prenerf mav was?"

"Lets add c4 to it."

The World Champion went to China once.

They called me a Gweilo.

So I kicked a big fucking hole in their wall and let all the Mongolians in.

just thought I'd share.


The thought of Assaults running out of ACE 23 rounds mid firefight, Engineers facing the rear of an unaware MBT with no rockets left, Recons unable to...Whatever the fuck they do. These are the things that keep me up at night ;(


About hunturk:
I don't know what's funnier, the video itself of the fact that an unlisted video has more views than most of your normal videos :P

...


You just live to hit people upside the noggin with a Math Bomb, don't you?

[context] Maybe it's the UK's overly aggressive porn filter at work. After all, it does have the word "monkey" in it and monkeys have been known to have sex so...


Previously, at DICE HQ:
"Ok guys, the password is "epic dream worlds"; everyone take a letter and do your best to turn it into into something random that we can put into a picture!"


I assume a functional game (BF4) also.

Aww!
*pinches cheeks*
So cute!


But but but

He's a Youtuber ;(

There's no way he doesn't know what he's talking about


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Saturday, August 29th 2015, 12:24pm

why can't people see that going for the middle is the best thing?

Well, most political parties actually do go for something in the middle. Most parties will take one side or the other, but often on specific matters take the opposite stance.

For example, in Australia, there's something called Medicare. It's essentially a tax-funded scheme to ensure that you don't really have to pay up front for your medical needs, unlike in the US. Even though a fundamentally right-wing party would be against this, both major parties in Australia support the use of Medicare.
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How to ice an A-91

Next, wanna try adding a guy that you KNOW is bad, and just testing to see that? Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

PP-2000 added. Y'know, it's not that bad....

Yes, it comes in last so far, but that is mostly because I'm making it shoot at 100m ADS - Not Moving as one of the criteria. Even then, between 50-100m Not Moving, when you include Useability, it is only 1.37% worse than the MTAR-21. Within 50m then it even beats the A-91.

Have a look, vs. the A-91 Carbine:




Using it with Muzzle Brake and Compensator is a wash in terms of overall performance. Comp is SLIGHTLY more accurate, while MB is SLIGHTLY more easy to use. Their overall scores are basically tied, with MB just ahead. I guess either can be recommended.

But... You can't be counting for the fact that it takes 9 bullets to kill at "long" range... Don't you dare tell me my A-91 is worse than a 9 BTK 650 RPM mediocre PDW.

Also. Just go heavy barrel. The recoil is low enough.

Well, technically...

Comparing a PP2K with HB and an A-91 with comp and stubby (as you suggested in an earlier post), at 50m not moving, the A-91 is only better by 4 damage per hitrate. While at 75m and 100m, surprisingly the PP2K does better than the A-91 (I'm pretty damn surprised as well).

And 10m and 50m moving the PP2K also does more damage per hitrate than the A-91. At 25m the A-91 is only better by about half a bullet's damage as well.

In addition, the PP2K has a much larger mag size and substantially less recoil. And it looks hella awesome. So comparing the A-91 to a PDW is of some worth after all, as the PP2K is better (technically, not practically) than the A-91.

Mind blown.

I... I...

*cries in a corner*

Zer0Cod3x explained it very well. If you look at the raw numbers right here on Symthic Comparison, you can see how that happened:

A-91 vs PP-2000 | BF4 Weapon Comparison | Symthic

A-91's "23%" RPM advantage only afforded it 1 extra round.

Reload times are wash.

Velocities are wash.

V-Recoil are wash (and this is HBar on PP2k vs. A-91 without).

Hipfire and ADS - Moving are better on the PP2k, but it's a PDW and not the surprising part.

The surprising part is that, as equipped (and we see above that PP2k HBar has almost same V-Recoil as A-91 without HBar so why not?), the PDW performs better at 50 - 100m than a bloody Carbine. Why?

H-Recoil Spread, 0.525 vs. 0.45, advantage PP2k.

SIPS, 42% better on the PP2k.

And here is the most important part. ADS - Not Moving Spread, 0.35 vs. 0.2, 43% improvement.

Without HBar then of course the PP2k loses, which is why when I add all the attachments together for an Overall Ranking, it would slot below the A-91. Run HBar on it, though, then... I'm sorry

@Veritable
@Zer0Cod3x
I... I...
But...
Wha...
I AM HAVING AN EXISTENTIAL CRISIS IN SCHOOL BECAUSE OF YOU TWO.

FUCK YOU NERDS AND YOUR FANCY NUMBERS

SEXY RUSSIAN BULLPUPS FTW.

In all seriousness, thank you both so much for giving me the numbers. I still don't want to accept them. You have led the horse to water. I still need to drink.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Zer0Cod3x" (Aug 29th 2015, 12:46pm)


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Saturday, August 29th 2015, 1:39pm

Everything seems fine here to me... Just some normal civilized discussion.

How long will the experiment run for till the mods can say "we told you so" with a supreme sense of self-entitlement? It's lasted longer than i thought.

Yeah, it's gonna happen.


Pfft mods, if you don't do some moderatin' of course this will happen.
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Saturday, August 29th 2015, 4:13pm

Everything seems fine here to me... Just some normal civilized discussion.

How long will the experiment run for till the mods can say "we told you so" with a supreme sense of self-entitlement? It's lasted longer than i thought.

Yeah, it's gonna happen.


Pfft mods, if you don't do some moderatin' of course this will happen.
What I'm tryna say is do your jobs fgts.

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Saturday, August 29th 2015, 4:15pm

At least you have a choice in America, politics in the UK have become so homogenised there's no longer any major policy differences between the two main parties, and our voting system ensures that one of the two biggest parties will always have the majority of power. The media over here is quite biased against anyone not holding a centrist or centre right position. Left wing? You'll be demonised by the tabloids and news, right wing? You'll be demonised by satirists and popular figures. At least in Scotland we have a de-centralised government for many issues, which should be in my opinion the way to go for all UK regions. Full federalisation or independence, it's the only way to stop the massive South East bias the central government has.

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Saturday, August 29th 2015, 4:35pm

At least you have a choice in America, politics in the UK have become so homogenised there's no longer any major policy differences between the two main parties, and our voting system ensures that one of the two biggest parties will always have the majority of power. The media over here is quite biased against anyone not holding a centrist or centre right position. Left wing? You'll be demonised by the tabloids and news, right wing? You'll be demonised by satirists and popular figures. At least in Scotland we have a de-centralised government for many issues, which should be in my opinion the way to go for all UK regions. Full federalisation or independence, it's the only way to stop the massive South East bias the central government has.

I dunno, the media here tends to attack everyone just like what I've heard happens over in the UK.

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On the topic of Trump, he JUST said something sane about taxing the rich more:
Donald Trump thinks we should tax the rich more - Aug. 27, 2015
I've heard a handful of sane things from him (taxing the poor doesn't work, bribery shouldn't be legal) so far. Finally, a Trump-ism that actually seems sensible.

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Oh yeah, I should mention it to add some more insight as to how America works for y'all out of the country. Here, bribery is legal. America's highest court ruled that giving money is equivalent to free speech and since then lobbying (bribery but more complicated) has run rampant.

That's another of our major issues. The only Republican who's come out against it is (to the best of my knowledge) Donald Trump. Our Democrats are supposedly all against it but only one of them (Bernie Sanders) is really passionate about fixing it.
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Saturday, August 29th 2015, 4:52pm

Both American political parties exist to grow the size and scope of government, the difference is only speed of expansion. Five people in black robes typically help them out.