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Friday, August 28th 2015, 2:38pm

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Religions have given a societal-/cultural-evolutionary advantage in times of otherwise lacking education, maybe also through mass-control and homogenization. Nowadays we would be better off having religions relevant only for individuals, not for states or masses.

Sun ofc was right, business as usual.

Hey 3VN! Nice to see you back! And being as logical as ever. I must say, you put it beautifully. Though I still think individuals should shy away from it, you bring up an amazingly brief, yet still true, point.

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eh, im doing fine without it

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Friday, August 28th 2015, 3:26pm

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You have your own religion. You believe in evidence. Good choice. So do i. Unfortunately it lacks of "hope". Religion offers this, but Christians have a horrible way of facing depressions. They say shit like "Everything is going to be fine". This is the source for even deeper depression. There is no change and so the hope and the belief leaves. It would have been a lot better if Christians actually think about the saying:

Heaven helps those who help themselves.

The christian approach of facing depression aka. "praying" could be historical (I am pretty sure about this). Religion was a way of separating the social classes. "Everything is fine as it is" was used to be said in churches. Keeping the clerus and the kings invulnerable of critique.

Therefore religion in general is the enemy of the communists. It prevents the workers from freedom. As it is chanted in "the internationale": "There are no supreme sviours - Neither God, nor Caesar, nor tribune. - Producers, let us save ourselves - decree the common salvation" (I dont know the lyric, so I looked it up on wikipedia)

Now everyone has the (theoretical) chance to achieve any goal he wants. The result is a competitive society. Fortunately, this is the source for our current wealth. Unfortunately, there is a bunch of people who have troubled lifes or horrible incidents. When those people look at their broken life, a depression quickly develops.

If those people just have their believe in evidence and look at the facts of their broken life, they have no reason to live any more. They can provide hard evidence why their suicide is logical.

Religion is something safe they can grab. The last instance, which keeps them off from suicide. Churches just fail to deliver the next step: Making them convinced of themselves.

You would be much more interested in working out if you are convinced from yourself.
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Friday, August 28th 2015, 3:27pm

Just.... just dont try to convince somebody that religion (or somebodys religion in particular) is wrong.


Why not?


Because it is immature and Religion serves a purpose in our society.
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Friday, August 28th 2015, 3:52pm

I don't like religion because it holds people back. Our technology would've been so much better if the church didn't keep people ignorant.
+ religious wars are also dumb (eg Al Qaida/ISIS).

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Friday, August 28th 2015, 3:54pm

eh, im doing fine without it

mfw

Missing out on +1 gold per 4 followers

Missing out on +15% production

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Missing out on holy city tourism modifiers

Missing out on whatever other beliefs

Thinks he's "doing fine"

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Friday, August 28th 2015, 4:06pm

+ religious wars are also dumb (eg Al Qaida/ISIS).

Terrorism is a subversion of the religion itself. The majority of muslims are peaceful.

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Friday, August 28th 2015, 4:17pm

eh, im doing fine without it

mfw

Missing out on +1 gold per 4 followers

Missing out on +15% production

Missing out on +2 happiness, culture, and faith per city

Missing out on holy city tourism modifiers

Missing out on whatever other beliefs

Thinks he's "doing fine"


There's a big difference between thinking im fine and knowing im fine. If i were a believer, i would be asking a god why he puts me thru such trials. Instead i know to blame myself for my mistakes and see a doctor when things get bad instead of praying for the best.

Besides, im not missing out on productivity. My class-specific bonus grants +3 to both Charisma and Resistance

eh, im doing fine without it


Did you had a crisis before? As long as you come along without it, its perfectly fine. But when you face a crisis religion _can_ help and for most people it does.

Just.... just dont try to convince somebody that religion (or somebodys religion in particular) is wrong.

Granted, I would have difficulties too not to howl with laughter if I meet a Scientologist.


Nah, that aint my thing. Im one of the cool guys. I dont care what beliefs others may have, and i dont expect people to care about mine. I just roll with the waves

And, I made the decision without any sort of crisis. I really never felt any sort of connection to any religion growing up. Here recently in my life i've gone through health problems. That was a big crisis, but it didnt bring me to god. Althouth, my SO is a pretty strong baptist and having her around gives me a soft, warm feeling on the inside. Maybe that's like the "warmth of god" i have heard so much about? I really dont know
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Friday, August 28th 2015, 4:30pm

+ religious wars are also dumb (eg Al Qaida/ISIS).

Terrorism is a subversion of the religion itself. The majority of muslims are peaceful.

I know, I've been to Turkey earlier this month and the people there are lovely.
It's just another reason why i dislike religion.

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Friday, August 28th 2015, 4:33pm

Just.... just dont try to convince somebody that religion (or somebodys religion in particular) is wrong.


Why not?


Because it is immature and Religion serves a purpose in our society.


You're assuming every religion or belief system out there is universally beneficial. Why would you not attempt to challenge those that aren't?

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Friday, August 28th 2015, 5:01pm

universally beneficial


I didnt say religion is universally beneficial. Its a helpful tool for people in crisis; It accelerates the ambitious; It sets the common rules for social behaviour (where every religion shares the same principle)

The disadvantages are numerous. Especially the denial of science is horrible.

At this point I have to quote rezal: you cant fix stupid.

Religion tells stupid people how to act and gives them a simpler version of how the world works.

They need a set of rules of behaviour they can follow. Science doesnt give them things like "Do not kill" or "Do not steal". A set of rules they need in their daily life. This set of common social behaviour is set by religion, not justice courts.

No matter how hard you try, you cannot win with facts as they wont comprehend them.

Probably thats Panda's gripe with religion; stupidity and ignorance always goes hand in hand.
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