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Monday, September 28th 2015, 7:34pm

I never go that high. 1600DPI is enough for me.


My mouse is usually set to 1800 DPI but I more-than-often hammer that down in-game. I like having a twitchy mouse pointer when I'm just generally internetting but a twitchy crosshair is unusable for me for...Reasons...

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Monday, September 28th 2015, 7:48pm

Is DPI/sensitivity linear?

from the quick google check I just did, yes. DPI is the mouse sensor's accuracy, sensitivity is just a flat multiplier of the speed.

This has been my impression as well.

A mouse at 100 DPI with 10X the sensitivity will move at the same speed as a 1000DPI mouse, but it's gonna be more twitchy and temperamental with its precision than the 1000DPI mouse.

Because 100 DPI will just be too low of a resolution or why?

Provided that the DPI is "adequate" with respect to the precision of you hand , which it always should be even at the lowest setting, there should be no differences in precision when the relationship is linear: 1 * 800 DPI = 0.5 * 1600 DPI = 0.25 * 3200 DPI. (I.e., sensitivities of 1, 0.5, and 0.25 should give the same in-game performance for these DPIs.)
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Monday, September 28th 2015, 7:57pm

Is DPI/sensitivity linear?

from the quick google check I just did, yes. DPI is the mouse sensor's accuracy, sensitivity is just a flat multiplier of the speed.

This has been my impression as well.

A mouse at 100 DPI with 10X the sensitivity will move at the same speed as a 1000DPI mouse, but it's gonna be more twitchy and temperamental with its precision than the 1000DPI mouse.
Because 100 DPI will just be too low of a resolution or why?
idk I just damn-near word-for-worded something I saw from another forum post. I liked the example. :P I guess it's a case of raw DPI being better at filling in gaps than messing with the sensitivity multipliers is.
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Monday, September 28th 2015, 8:22pm

Is DPI/sensitivity linear?

from the quick google check I just did, yes. DPI is the mouse sensor's accuracy, sensitivity is just a flat multiplier of the speed.

This has been my impression as well.

A mouse at 100 DPI with 10X the sensitivity will move at the same speed as a 1000DPI mouse, but it's gonna be more twitchy and temperamental with its precision than the 1000DPI mouse.
Because 100 DPI will just be too low of a resolution or why?
idk I just damn-near word-for-worded something I saw from another forum post. I liked the example. :P I guess it's a case of raw DPI being better at filling in gaps than messing with the sensitivity multipliers is.


I think you are talking about pixel skipping , It is better to a lower sensitivity in game because of that but for the mouse a high or lower dpi accuracy is dependent on the sensor for example a mouse may be more accurate at 1800 dpi then 400dpi but another may be the opposite so yeah,
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Monday, September 28th 2015, 8:26pm

The logic I see would be that the PC interprets mouse input on a dot-by-dot basis, and a mouse that registers 8200 dots per inch sends eighty-two times as many "yo, the mouse was moved one dot" signals to the PC than a 100 DPI mouse (depending on speed and polling rate it will of course send multiple dots in one packet). If a PC uses the same dots-to-movement rate for both it stands to reason that the cursor will move 82 times as fast on the mouse, which means that the multiplier should be reduced (i.e. less cursormovement per dot, several dots required for one pixel potentially I think).

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Yeah, I think pixel skipping is the problem that a high DPI circumvents, as there is a steadier and more fluid/accurate flow of information and positional updates sent from the mouse.

It's probably a bit like overclocking a CPU: altering the base frequency is more difficult and demanding for the hardware, but achieves a smoother result than simply tweaking the (potentially) free multiplier.
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Monday, September 28th 2015, 8:31pm

I would say, get any mouse that fits your requirement with an ADNS 3090 or 3310 sensor. Its all about dat sensor.

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Monday, September 28th 2015, 11:52pm

I didn't bother reading the whole thread but my suggestion is a Roccat Kone.


I have the Kone +. It has a 6000 DPI max, 2 default side buttons, 4 way scroll, a full software suite with macros that's very intuitive to use and works wonderfully, 5 different interchangeable profiles, and they are sub-$100. The biggest advantage is the "easy shift" capability, which acts like a modifier key. You can essentially double the key count on the mouse this way, as when you hold down the "easy shift" button you can reprogram any key. Perfect example, my left click is shoot, but when I hold the closer thumb button down my left click is now melee.

I have quite a few functions on the mouse that you ordinarily wouldn't be able to do thanks to both the "easy shift" and the 4 way scroll. They even went so far as to not dedicate the DPI +/- buttons so you can even program those to do whatever.

In BF4 my mouse does:
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If you happen top have a Roccat keyboard, you can even pair the "easy-shift" function with the keyboard controls.


It's insanely useful, and after using a Roccat mouse I won't use any other.
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Monday, September 28th 2015, 11:59pm

I currently use a Logitech G402. It has some ridiculously high DPI (8200 I think), 2 normal thumb buttons, and a third thumb button for changing the DPI on the fly (all of the functions are remappable using the Logitech software). It also has 2 buttons to the side of the left mouse button. However, its scroll wheel is only 2 directions. It is a light mouse and I got it for only $30 on Amazon during a sale (normal price is $40).

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Tuesday, September 29th 2015, 12:19am

It's 2015, and people still use 400 DPI because MLG.

Higher DPI = better, assuming accuracy of the sensor doesn't change.

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Tuesday, September 29th 2015, 12:45am

It's 2015, and people still use 400 DPI because MLG.

Higher DPI = better, assuming accuracy of the sensor doesn't change.


Well, there are other reasons :P

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