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Thursday, March 30th 2017, 12:17am

The title alone should be filling people with anticipation for imminent hilarity.
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With this, I'll rid MGO3 of infestation. Sans bad gameplay MGO3 will be torn asunder. And then it shall be free. People will suffer, of course - a phantom pain.

Reddit and Konami will rewrite the records... And I will be demonized in human memory. But... The thirst for good gameplay that I have planted will infest MGO3. No one can stop it now. The Rebalance Mod will unleash that thirst unto the future.


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Thursday, March 30th 2017, 12:19am

Read to the end.

11/10.
something something Model 8 bestgun


How to ice an A-91

Next, wanna try adding a guy that you KNOW is bad, and just testing to see that? Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

PP-2000 added. Y'know, it's not that bad....

Yes, it comes in last so far, but that is mostly because I'm making it shoot at 100m ADS - Not Moving as one of the criteria. Even then, between 50-100m Not Moving, when you include Useability, it is only 1.37% worse than the MTAR-21. Within 50m then it even beats the A-91.

Have a look, vs. the A-91 Carbine:




Using it with Muzzle Brake and Compensator is a wash in terms of overall performance. Comp is SLIGHTLY more accurate, while MB is SLIGHTLY more easy to use. Their overall scores are basically tied, with MB just ahead. I guess either can be recommended.

But... You can't be counting for the fact that it takes 9 bullets to kill at "long" range... Don't you dare tell me my A-91 is worse than a 9 BTK 650 RPM mediocre PDW.

Also. Just go heavy barrel. The recoil is low enough.

Well, technically...

Comparing a PP2K with HB and an A-91 with comp and stubby (as you suggested in an earlier post), at 50m not moving, the A-91 is only better by 4 damage per hitrate. While at 75m and 100m, surprisingly the PP2K does better than the A-91 (I'm pretty damn surprised as well).

And 10m and 50m moving the PP2K also does more damage per hitrate than the A-91. At 25m the A-91 is only better by about half a bullet's damage as well.

In addition, the PP2K has a much larger mag size and substantially less recoil. And it looks hella awesome. So comparing the A-91 to a PDW is of some worth after all, as the PP2K is better (technically, not practically) than the A-91.

Mind blown.

I... I...

*cries in a corner*

Zer0Cod3x explained it very well. If you look at the raw numbers right here on Symthic Comparison, you can see how that happened:

A-91 vs PP-2000 | BF4 Weapon Comparison | Symthic

A-91's "23%" RPM advantage only afforded it 1 extra round.

Reload times are wash.

Velocities are wash.

V-Recoil are wash (and this is HBar on PP2k vs. A-91 without).

Hipfire and ADS - Moving are better on the PP2k, but it's a PDW and not the surprising part.

The surprising part is that, as equipped (and we see above that PP2k HBar has almost same V-Recoil as A-91 without HBar so why not?), the PDW performs better at 50 - 100m than a bloody Carbine. Why?

H-Recoil Spread, 0.525 vs. 0.45, advantage PP2k.

SIPS, 42% better on the PP2k.

And here is the most important part. ADS - Not Moving Spread, 0.35 vs. 0.2, 43% improvement.

Without HBar then of course the PP2k loses, which is why when I add all the attachments together for an Overall Ranking, it would slot below the A-91. Run HBar on it, though, then... I'm sorry

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But...
Wha...
I AM HAVING AN EXISTENTIAL CRISIS IN SCHOOL BECAUSE OF YOU TWO.

FUCK YOU NERDS AND YOUR FANCY NUMBERS

SEXY RUSSIAN BULLPUPS FTW.

In all seriousness, thank you both so much for giving me the numbers. I still don't want to accept them. You have led the horse to water. I still need to drink.


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Thursday, March 30th 2017, 12:19am



Eh? Gunplay in BF2 was absolute trash. It was marginally better in 2142 (IMO the first BF that really stood as a shooter if you stripped away the sandbox and combined arms).

BF2 was all dolphin diving meta and the netcode was trash. A solid number of engagements required you to aim behind enemies not lead them FFS.

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Thursday, March 30th 2017, 12:21am

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To Aim Assist or not to Aim Assist, that is the question.

Nope. Aim Assist or bust; here's why:

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Prepare your laughbox

the Sebstalder is quiet good since it can 3hit kill at any distanc ,but In my opinion i actually thikn the sweeper is better, its got a really really fast firerate that can beat alll those Noobmaticos, Helregall adn shitguns in close quarters , and its also really accurate out to like l;ong range,. overall great allround gun, jsut my 2$ tho


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Thursday, March 30th 2017, 12:23am

@tankmayvin

Quoted from "Zer0Cod3x"

Read to the end.


LOL....that bastard. :thumbsup:

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Thursday, March 30th 2017, 12:25am

I know right? My jaw dropped in disbelief in that everything he was saying was contrary to what skill incorporates. Then I just skimmed to the end and saw the golden signature. Then I knew what was up haha.
To Aim Assist or not to Aim Assist, that is the question.

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the Sebstalder is quiet good since it can 3hit kill at any distanc ,but In my opinion i actually thikn the sweeper is better, its got a really really fast firerate that can beat alll those Noobmaticos, Helregall adn shitguns in close quarters , and its also really accurate out to like l;ong range,. overall great allround gun, jsut my 2$ tho


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Thursday, March 30th 2017, 12:28am

I know right? My jaw dropped in disbelief in that everything he was saying was contrary to what skill incorporates. Then I just skimmed to the end and saw the golden signature. Then I knew what was up haha.


"alternative skill". ;)

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Sunday, April 2nd 2017, 12:50pm

oh yeah.
[April Fools'] Top 6 Weapons That NEED to be in BF1

please mods, i know miff said he won't delete it, but not everyone is miff, so don't delete it, it's a monument to rules, an achievement, for we were able to break all rules but one(nobody spammed their youtube channel) and the quote and rep system along with it, everyone should see it, as a showing of "this is what happens when you don't have authorities around"
oh and obviusly if we count the entire forum and not that single thread, than we broke every single rule and every component of the forum, top to bottom.
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obliteration mode scoreRANK:994 TOP:1% OUT OF:159466
handgun medals RANK:2236 TOP:2% OUT OF:143874
longest headshot RANK:9512 TOP:4% OUT OF:257589
recon score RANK:10871 TOP:4% OUT OF:274899
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Sunday, April 2nd 2017, 8:59pm

oh yeah.
[April Fools'] Top 6 Weapons That NEED to be in BF1

please mods, i know miff said he won't delete it, but not everyone is miff, so don't delete it, it's a monument to rules, an achievement, for we were able to break all rules but one(nobody spammed their youtube channel) and the quote and rep system along with it, everyone should see it, as a showing of "this is what happens when you don't have authorities around"
oh and obviusly if we count the entire forum and not that single thread, than we broke every single rule and every component of the forum, top to bottom.


Sadly one rule went unbroken yesterday and that was rule 14, I really wanted to make gecko992 but I wasn't sure if that would have pushed it too far.
Still, that was a fun day.
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Sunday, April 2nd 2017, 9:53pm

oh yeah.
[April Fools'] Top 6 Weapons That NEED to be in BF1

please mods, i know miff said he won't delete it, but not everyone is miff, so don't delete it, it's a monument to rules, an achievement, for we were able to break all rules but one(nobody spammed their youtube channel) and the quote and rep system along with it, everyone should see it, as a showing of "this is what happens when you don't have authorities around"
oh and obviusly if we count the entire forum and not that single thread, than we broke every single rule and every component of the forum, top to bottom.


Yeah, what do we have MarbleDuck for, if he does not shamlessly push his channel in every thread? Huge disappointment! I am tempted to throw my Selbstlader 1916 at him.