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NoctyrneSAGA

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Monday, June 22nd 2015, 9:09am

Is there a chance that DICE changes this? I hope so.


Nah dawg, flag-spawned assets add a lot of depth to strategy and reward your team for playing the objective.

It's not like there's ticket bleed or spawn advantages.
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Monday, June 22nd 2015, 10:09am

I really, really hope that DICE tweaks vehicle counts on maps (both those in uncaps and those on flags) in the future. The amount of vehicles on flags needs to be drastically decreased overall and what vehicles are on what maps needs to be tweaked.

How the maps should be rebalanced after that isn't very clear cut after that, for example what should be done with Hainan once the flag based MAA and M142 goes? The map is really small but at the same time it has a lot of air vehicles. Maybe switch one IFV out for an MAA on each team?

What about Oman? Can Oman even be saved? Remove all flag based vehicles and give RU a small FOB across the bridge at A with some vehicles?

On a tangent: I hope DICE stops messing with that flag based tank on the CMP and cuts that shit out. No need spoil a promising map with that shit.

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And reading Youtube comments still gives me Turbo Cancer.

It really is quite frustrating when Helen Keller sets up her LMG in the only doorway in/out of an area.

What kind of question is that? Since when is cheese ever a bad idea?

Hardline is a fun and sometimes silly Cops and Robbers sorta thing and I think that's great. Or it would be if it didn't suck.

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Monday, June 22nd 2015, 10:17am

Basically all maps with flag spawning MAA are pretty much ruined. Giants of Karelia is a prime offender with tank, attack helicopter and MAA spawning on map.
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Monday, June 22nd 2015, 2:24pm

Basically all maps with flag spawning MAA are pretty much ruined. Giants of Karelia is a prime offender with tank, attack helicopter and MAA spawning on map.

Also, what's that stupid China Rising map with 4 possible AA tanks? Altai Range? Flag spawned AAs are the WORST. If the other team gets B on paracel, you're fucked.

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ou obviously don't know what an argument is as there is only one person battling. Do you really fucking think I want subs? You think you can act all big and powerful just because you sit on a computer at least 6 hours a day like the probably nerdy unwanted retard you are with 4.3k subs? You think 4.3k subs is a lot? LOL you need medicine man. I don't want any subs as i just have a google account for other media and writing comments. Think twice before you act. You even said in your video you aren't that great of a player, and the comments agree you aren't. Maybe you should once again think twice before you act, stop being such an annoying, ignorant bastard that everyone wants to shut up, and god, literally, just shut up. Your voice gave me a headache :s

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"you obviously don't know what an argument is as there is only one person battling. Do you really fucking think I want subs? You think you can act all big and powerful just because you sit on a computer at least 6 hours a day like the probably nerdy unwanted retard you are with 4.3k subs? You think 4.3k subs is a lot? LOL you need medicine man. I don't want any subs as i just have a google account for other media and writing comments. Think twice before you act. You even said in your video you aren't that great of a player, and the comments agree you aren't. Maybe you should once again think twice before you act, stop being such an annoying, ignorant bastard that everyone wants to shut up, and god, literally, just shut up. Your voice gave me a headache :s"

"As a youtuber shouldn't be trying to be reeling in your viewers with exciting stuff being said not your boring ass commentary for your video"

"The more you watch his vid the dumber he gets I swear he's borderline autistic look I got shot behind cover beacuase thin sheets metal are unpenetrable. Bf4 is just as quiet and tactical as bf3 random explosion in the background . Player has dissconected from chat
You started playing bf3 and never touched bfc1/2. Please do yourself a favor and shutdown your generic cod channel down"

"Nice clickb8 Faggot w8ting for your shit tier video to disable comments . Fucking newfag cancer go play some cod you activisiom cock faggot"

"I don't see why he [MarbleDuck] always tries to shit on levelcap he is better and has a million more subs...and also "there isnt a best gun in she game there are guns that are better that others at different engagement distances" yes thats true and whichever is the best/most average at all of them is the "best gun""

"Marbleduck you don't know shit lol levelcap knows more than you do you cant talk about how someone puts up garbage when you do yourself your a newcomer to YouTube acting like you know shit step up in the food chain first then you have the right to talk otherwise your just a fish trying to compete with sharks"

"Why don't we just witness "LevelCap vs MarbleDuck" One on One both on Battlefield 3 and Battlefield 4 seen as there is so much Controversy about the Two Youtubers"

"stfu cunt, BF3 was way better end of discussion"

"Stfu man, you're be littleing the most looked upon Battlefield Youtuber. No one cares about you, how much of an ego you have, or quite frankly your opinion. It's a fucking game.... Does it really fucking matter? Pathetic man."

"fuck you asshole, dont talk shit about total"

"Wtf is your problem? You have no subs and he has millions, yet you pick on him like some kind of stubborn, ignorant, rude child born with a silver spoon is his mouth. It's easy to do that, for example... You said there was no background noise yet there is. You say you're a fairly good player, you're not."

"please talk like a normal person and not like a professional"

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Monday, June 22nd 2015, 2:27pm

Basically all maps with flag spawning MAA are pretty much ruined. Giants of Karelia is a prime offender with tank, attack helicopter and MAA spawning on map.
Also, what's that stupid China Rising map with 4 possible AA tanks? Altai Range? Flag spawned AAs are the WORST. If the other team gets B on paracel, you're fucked.
Jeeps and transportations are fine but some of the combat vehicle spawns, especially MAAs, are very game-decisive. Having gunship ability on same flag as MAA is making that many time worse (ie. Paracel Storm).
Links to users' thread list who have made analytical/statistical/mathematical/cool posts on Symthic:
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  • InterimAegis - Weapon comparisons/scoring.
  • leptis - Analysis of shotguns, recoil, recoil control and air drag.
  • Veritable - Scoring of BF4/BF1 firearms in terms of usability, firing and other mechanics.
  • pmax - Statistical analysis of BF4 players/games.
  • Miffyli - Random statistical analysis of BF4 battlereports/players and kill-distances. (list is cluttered with other threads).
Sorry if your name wasn't on the list, I honestly can't recall all names : ( . Nudge me if you want to be included

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Monday, June 22nd 2015, 2:32pm

IFVs and Scout Helicopters are fine on remote flags, like Paracel Storm E. Otherwise, this flag would be just bad. But most of the time the vehicles spawning on flags are very strong and relevant to have, and they spawn on central flags.
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Monday, June 22nd 2015, 2:38pm

on flags are very strong and relevant to have

>implying scout helicopters are neither strong nor relevant

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"you obviously don't know what an argument is as there is only one person battling. Do you really fucking think I want subs? You think you can act all big and powerful just because you sit on a computer at least 6 hours a day like the probably nerdy unwanted retard you are with 4.3k subs? You think 4.3k subs is a lot? LOL you need medicine man. I don't want any subs as i just have a google account for other media and writing comments. Think twice before you act. You even said in your video you aren't that great of a player, and the comments agree you aren't. Maybe you should once again think twice before you act, stop being such an annoying, ignorant bastard that everyone wants to shut up, and god, literally, just shut up. Your voice gave me a headache :s"

"As a youtuber shouldn't be trying to be reeling in your viewers with exciting stuff being said not your boring ass commentary for your video"

"The more you watch his vid the dumber he gets I swear he's borderline autistic look I got shot behind cover beacuase thin sheets metal are unpenetrable. Bf4 is just as quiet and tactical as bf3 random explosion in the background . Player has dissconected from chat
You started playing bf3 and never touched bfc1/2. Please do yourself a favor and shutdown your generic cod channel down"

"Nice clickb8 Faggot w8ting for your shit tier video to disable comments . Fucking newfag cancer go play some cod you activisiom cock faggot"

"I don't see why he [MarbleDuck] always tries to shit on levelcap he is better and has a million more subs...and also "there isnt a best gun in she game there are guns that are better that others at different engagement distances" yes thats true and whichever is the best/most average at all of them is the "best gun""

"Marbleduck you don't know shit lol levelcap knows more than you do you cant talk about how someone puts up garbage when you do yourself your a newcomer to YouTube acting like you know shit step up in the food chain first then you have the right to talk otherwise your just a fish trying to compete with sharks"

"Why don't we just witness "LevelCap vs MarbleDuck" One on One both on Battlefield 3 and Battlefield 4 seen as there is so much Controversy about the Two Youtubers"

"stfu cunt, BF3 was way better end of discussion"

"Stfu man, you're be littleing the most looked upon Battlefield Youtuber. No one cares about you, how much of an ego you have, or quite frankly your opinion. It's a fucking game.... Does it really fucking matter? Pathetic man."

"fuck you asshole, dont talk shit about total"

"Wtf is your problem? You have no subs and he has millions, yet you pick on him like some kind of stubborn, ignorant, rude child born with a silver spoon is his mouth. It's easy to do that, for example... You said there was no background noise yet there is. You say you're a fairly good player, you're not."

"please talk like a normal person and not like a professional"

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Monday, June 22nd 2015, 2:46pm

If the other team gets B on paracel, you're fucked.

You're not kidding. Whenever i play Paracel, i keep caps locking in team chat telling my teammates to push heavily on B. And when we lose it to a faction that has an amphibious MAA, i hide in the bushes and try to get the MAA to run away with it toward some island.

It's that pivotal.

on flags are very strong and relevant to have

>implying scout helicopters are neither strong nor relevant

Scout helis are for ffg's.

But, really, they're not all that.

NoctyrneSAGA

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Monday, June 22nd 2015, 8:29pm

Went to play HC

Bipodded up on my favorite overwatch spot

mfw first death of the game is by teammate after going on 26 killstreak guarding outside by myself

no one wants to heal me either



Also, got triple kill by spraying randomly.
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Tuesday, June 23rd 2015, 1:04pm


I'm only proud of my BF3 stats. I've barely played BF4.
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And.... I banged the fucking computer box yet again last night.... She had moved it a bit, but not to a better spot <.<

WAT. YOU BANGED IT?

All those open ports where just too much temptation for him...

Now this section is woowee special. This, is when DaRubester is drunk.
I think I should sacrifice part of my sigs just for when Rube is drunk.



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