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Tuesday, June 2nd 2015, 7:30pm


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Tuesday, June 2nd 2015, 8:59pm

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But everyone knows the English spend their summer in southern portuguese coast!

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Tuesday, June 2nd 2015, 9:50pm

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But everyone knows the English spend their summer in southern portuguese coast!


Never been to Portugal...
...Never been to Spain either :|
...Or France...
Been to Italy loads though :)

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Tuesday, June 2nd 2015, 10:01pm

Been to Italy loads though

you hate its inhabitants yet?
just saying...

i really don't know what i would expect from spain and/or portugal though( i normally have expectations for pretty much any place, but not that)
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Tuesday, June 2nd 2015, 10:19pm

i really don't know what i would expect from spain and/or portugal

From Portugal, you can expect excellent performance/price on food and beverages.

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Tuesday, June 2nd 2015, 10:31pm

Been to Italy loads though

you hate its inhabitants yet?
just saying...


Where the fuck did you get that idea from?! I love Italians! Italy's mint!!! :D
Always have a great time when I go there, my Grandma (who's originally from Napoli) usually comes with us too!


I might be going to Barcelona sometime this year though, we'd of gone last year but there were...Problems...
Haven't ever actually thought of going to Portugal before. Could look into it for future holidays :)

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Wednesday, June 3rd 2015, 10:19am

Been to Italy loads though

you hate its inhabitants yet?
just saying...

i really don't know what i would expect from spain and/or portugal though( i normally have expectations for pretty much any place, but not that)

My first meeting with a local Italian was the cab driver that drove us from the airport to the vacation village thing.... 5 seat car, so him and the 4 of us... But on the way back he decided to pick up his girlfriend because it was on the way anyways and he was going to quit after this, so now there were 6 people in a 5 seat car... And on the drive back on the highway we were in the right lane, but still got passed by cars both to the left and right of us... And then he came to a one way street, from the wrong direction, so he honked his horn and carried on...

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Wednesday, June 3rd 2015, 11:30am

yeah that happens, awkwardly enough more often in dangerous roads rather than safe ones.
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Wednesday, June 3rd 2015, 12:51pm

My first meeting with a local Italian was the cab driver that drove us from the airport to the vacation village thing.... 5 seat car, so him and the 4 of us... But on the way back he decided to pick up his girlfriend because it was on the way anyways and he was going to quit after this, so now there were 6 people in a 5 seat car... And on the drive back on the highway we were in the right lane, but still got passed by cars both to the left and right of us... And then he came to a one way street, from the wrong direction, so he honked his horn and carried on...

The bus driver on the bus I pass every day on my way to school, every day literally stops his bus outside a coffee shop just to buy a coffee WHILE ON THE JOB. He also parks the bus on the busiest road in the morning. Like, WTF, how has no one complained about this?

And have you tried driving in Asian countries? The driving there is probably as bad or worse than Italy. In Malaysia once I saw a motorbike cut across four lanes of incoming traffic to get into the right lane to turn. He got horned by about 10 different cars and almost caused a pile-up.
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How to ice an A-91

Next, wanna try adding a guy that you KNOW is bad, and just testing to see that? Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

PP-2000 added. Y'know, it's not that bad....

Yes, it comes in last so far, but that is mostly because I'm making it shoot at 100m ADS - Not Moving as one of the criteria. Even then, between 50-100m Not Moving, when you include Useability, it is only 1.37% worse than the MTAR-21. Within 50m then it even beats the A-91.

Have a look, vs. the A-91 Carbine:




Using it with Muzzle Brake and Compensator is a wash in terms of overall performance. Comp is SLIGHTLY more accurate, while MB is SLIGHTLY more easy to use. Their overall scores are basically tied, with MB just ahead. I guess either can be recommended.

But... You can't be counting for the fact that it takes 9 bullets to kill at "long" range... Don't you dare tell me my A-91 is worse than a 9 BTK 650 RPM mediocre PDW.

Also. Just go heavy barrel. The recoil is low enough.

Well, technically...

Comparing a PP2K with HB and an A-91 with comp and stubby (as you suggested in an earlier post), at 50m not moving, the A-91 is only better by 4 damage per hitrate. While at 75m and 100m, surprisingly the PP2K does better than the A-91 (I'm pretty damn surprised as well).

And 10m and 50m moving the PP2K also does more damage per hitrate than the A-91. At 25m the A-91 is only better by about half a bullet's damage as well.

In addition, the PP2K has a much larger mag size and substantially less recoil. And it looks hella awesome. So comparing the A-91 to a PDW is of some worth after all, as the PP2K is better (technically, not practically) than the A-91.

Mind blown.

I... I...

*cries in a corner*

Zer0Cod3x explained it very well. If you look at the raw numbers right here on Symthic Comparison, you can see how that happened:

A-91 vs PP-2000 | BF4 Weapon Comparison | Symthic

A-91's "23%" RPM advantage only afforded it 1 extra round.

Reload times are wash.

Velocities are wash.

V-Recoil are wash (and this is HBar on PP2k vs. A-91 without).

Hipfire and ADS - Moving are better on the PP2k, but it's a PDW and not the surprising part.

The surprising part is that, as equipped (and we see above that PP2k HBar has almost same V-Recoil as A-91 without HBar so why not?), the PDW performs better at 50 - 100m than a bloody Carbine. Why?

H-Recoil Spread, 0.525 vs. 0.45, advantage PP2k.

SIPS, 42% better on the PP2k.

And here is the most important part. ADS - Not Moving Spread, 0.35 vs. 0.2, 43% improvement.

Without HBar then of course the PP2k loses, which is why when I add all the attachments together for an Overall Ranking, it would slot below the A-91. Run HBar on it, though, then... I'm sorry

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Wha...
I AM HAVING AN EXISTENTIAL CRISIS IN SCHOOL BECAUSE OF YOU TWO.

FUCK YOU NERDS AND YOUR FANCY NUMBERS

SEXY RUSSIAN BULLPUPS FTW.

In all seriousness, thank you both so much for giving me the numbers. I still don't want to accept them. You have led the horse to water. I still need to drink.


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Wednesday, June 3rd 2015, 3:41pm

Like, WTF, how has no one complained about this?

Maybe people understand a man's need for a coffee break, you priss!