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Monday, December 29th 2014, 8:31pm

PDW-R is just another name of the Magpul PDR: Magpul PDR - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I think Dice did it to avoid licencing costs.
Makes sense since Magpul charges an arm and a leg for licensing, on top of everything else they sell. Magpul is essentially the Louis Vuitton of firearms. Example : a sling point that probably costs at most $10 to produce selling for over three times that because everyone wants Magpul stuff to be as tacticool as humanly possible.


And yet they've put the Barrett M82 in the game too. A gun from a company that not only charges an arm and a leg but will also bury you alive if you don't make the weapon "their way"...
Hence why its got practically no recoil and is an instant kill at all ranges...

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Monday, December 29th 2014, 9:05pm

PDW-R is just another name of the Magpul PDR: Magpul PDR - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I think Dice did it to avoid licencing costs.
Makes sense since Magpul charges an arm and a leg for licensing, on top of everything else they sell. Magpul is essentially the Louis Vuitton of firearms. Example : a sling point that probably costs at most $10 to produce selling for over three times that because everyone wants Magpul stuff to be as tacticool as humanly possible.


And yet they've put the Barrett M82 in the game too. A gun from a company that not only charges an arm and a leg but will also bury you alive if you don't make the weapon "their way"...
Hence why its got practically no recoil and is an instant kill at all ranges...

Does Barrett actually do that? Source required. Either way, the OHK at all ranges makes sense at least: IRL a .50BMG round carries enough energy (between 17,000 and 20,500J of muzzle energy, depending on who's making it -- for comparison the 7.62mm NATO round puts out 3,304-3,506J of muzzle energy) to rip someone in half from a mile away. The "no recoil" deal though... If Barrett did pull some strings, it'd probably be here. No way in hell that the thing would kick so light from firing such a huge round.
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Monday, December 29th 2014, 9:11pm

PDW-R is just another name of the Magpul PDR: Magpul PDR - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I think Dice did it to avoid licencing costs.
Makes sense since Magpul charges an arm and a leg for licensing, on top of everything else they sell. Magpul is essentially the Louis Vuitton of firearms. Example : a sling point that probably costs at most $10 to produce selling for over three times that because everyone wants Magpul stuff to be as tacticool as humanly possible.


And yet they've put the Barrett M82 in the game too. A gun from a company that not only charges an arm and a leg but will also bury you alive if you don't make the weapon "their way"...
Hence why its got practically no recoil and is an instant kill at all ranges...

Does Barrett actually do that? Source required. Either way, the OHK at all ranges makes sense at least: IRL a .50BMG round carries enough energy (between 17,000 and 20,500J of muzzle energy, depending on who's making it -- for comparison the 7.62mm NATO round puts out 3,304-3,506J of muzzle energy) to rip someone in half from a mile away. The "no recoil" deal though... If Barrett did pull some strings, it'd probably be here. No way in hell that the thing would kick so light from firing such a huge round.

it doesn't, afaik a person i knew that had gone to the blackwater(was it called like that? can't remember) shooting center tried to shoot an entire mag of thing without support, no wonder that he nearly dislodged his shoulder and had some seiously ad color for days, and this guy was pretty tough physically(if you can drag around a mini-fridge for a duration of an entire softair match, i'd say you're pretty tough)

so yeah, it does kick a lot, and you definitely shouldn't be able to fire it while not bipoded, not without serious comeback problems that is.
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Monday, December 29th 2014, 9:16pm

PDW-R is just another name of the Magpul PDR: Magpul PDR - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I think Dice did it to avoid licencing costs.
Makes sense since Magpul charges an arm and a leg for licensing, on top of everything else they sell. Magpul is essentially the Louis Vuitton of firearms. Example : a sling point that probably costs at most $10 to produce selling for over three times that because everyone wants Magpul stuff to be as tacticool as humanly possible.


And yet they've put the Barrett M82 in the game too. A gun from a company that not only charges an arm and a leg but will also bury you alive if you don't make the weapon "their way"...
Hence why its got practically no recoil and is an instant kill at all ranges...

Does Barrett actually do that? Source required. Either way, the OHK at all ranges makes sense at least: IRL a .50BMG round carries enough energy (between 17,000 and 20,500J of muzzle energy, depending on who's making it -- for comparison the 7.62mm NATO round puts out 3,304-3,506J of muzzle energy) to rip someone in half from a mile away. The "no recoil" deal though... If Barrett did pull some strings, it'd probably be here. No way in hell that the thing would kick so light from firing such a huge round.
Feels like shooting a .30-06 with a steel butt plate.
It's really not that bad for what it is. Semi-automatic, 30-odd pound rifle with a muzzle brake the size of the sun and a recoiling barrel with something like an 7 or 8 pound bolt.
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Monday, December 29th 2014, 9:20pm

Does Barrett actually do that? Source required.

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Another key concern is that the weapon functions in a realistic manner. Barrett insists the game developer purchases one of the company's guns to aid the 3D modellers in their work. "[The gun must] perform to the standards that our rifles do in the real world," Vaughn says. "Barrett firearms is known for its quality and the brand must always be placed on that foundation."

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"We want to know explicitly how the rifle is to be used, ensuring that we are shown in a positive light... Such as the 'good guys' using the rifle," says Vaughn. His company insists that its gun isn't "used by individuals, organisations, countries or companies that would be shown as enemies of the United States or its citizens." Ideally, Vaughn says, Barrett's gun will only be used "by US law enforcement or US military".


Now I don't know how valid this is (internet articles yay), but apparently that info is straight from company who makes Barrets and such.
Links to users' thread list who have made analytical/statistical/mathematical/cool posts on Symthic:
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  • leptis - Analysis of shotguns, recoil, recoil control and air drag.
  • Veritable - Scoring of BF4/BF1 firearms in terms of usability, firing and other mechanics.
  • Miffyli - Random statistical analysis of BF4 battlereports/players and kill-distances. (list is cluttered with other threads).
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Monday, December 29th 2014, 10:03pm

Does Barrett actually do that? Source required.

Does Barrett actually do that? Source required.

From this article:

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Another key concern is that the weapon functions in a realistic manner. Barrett insists the game developer purchases one of the company's guns to aid the 3D modellers in their work. "[The gun must] perform to the standards that our rifles do in the real world," Vaughn says. "Barrett firearms is known for its quality and the brand must always be placed on that foundation."

Also on top of that:

Quoted

"We want to know explicitly how the rifle is to be used, ensuring that we are shown in a positive light... Such as the 'good guys' using the rifle," says Vaughn. His company insists that its gun isn't "used by individuals, organisations, countries or companies that would be shown as enemies of the United States or its citizens." Ideally, Vaughn says, Barrett's gun will only be used "by US law enforcement or US military".


Now I don't know how valid this is (internet articles yay), but apparently that info is straight from company who makes Barrets and such.


Couldn't get a hold of my mate who sent me the original article but I seem to remember it going the same route...

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Tuesday, December 30th 2014, 4:16pm

Playing some BF4 for some time again. For first three servers I get the "Check you have UDP port blabla open blabla" randomly, and on the fourth server I see lots of rank stacking going on once again + a group/clan I see pretty often when I play on those servers. Usually I just shrug it off as there's like 2-3 of them there and playing fair in one helicopter or so (altho dominating opposite team) but this time they stole our helis (attack and transport), spawnraped us with both of those and whined at me when I shot one of them down with Stinger.
Gotta admit I chuckled bit at the whining.
Links to users' thread list who have made analytical/statistical/mathematical/cool posts on Symthic:
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  • leptis - Analysis of shotguns, recoil, recoil control and air drag.
  • Veritable - Scoring of BF4/BF1 firearms in terms of usability, firing and other mechanics.
  • Miffyli - Random statistical analysis of BF4 battlereports/players and kill-distances. (list is cluttered with other threads).
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Tuesday, December 30th 2014, 4:35pm

Playing some BF4 for some time again. For first three servers I get the "Check you have UDP port blabla open blabla" randomly, and on the fourth server I see lots of rank stacking going on once again + a group/clan I see pretty often when I play on those servers. Usually I just shrug it off as there's like 2-3 of them there and playing fair in one helicopter or so (altho dominating opposite team) but this time they stole our helis (attack and transport), spawnraped us with both of those and whined at me when I shot one of them down with Stinger.
Gotta admit I chuckled bit at the whining.


Love it when you bitch slap the enemy's chopper crew...Bonus points if its with a UCAV :D

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Tuesday, December 30th 2014, 7:15pm

that moment when you're in the attack chopper's gunner seat and your pilot 1) won't bring the nose up for TVM goodness and 2) gets chased out of the combat zone by fucking ARM's.
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I once tried to burn a bridge, but due to the half-assed levolution implementation it kept standing up just fine.

Compared to the MTAR, the PDR has the TTK of your average pack of cigarettes.

The World Champion, on the Tactical Light:
"Oh don't mind me, I'm just out of ammo and I'll just POCKET SUN!!!!"

What can't be changed can be banned.

I'm completely serious. Well, seriously insane actually :P

If only more people left the wheel chair, adjustable hospital bed, and crutches behind and played HC. (aka Regen, Minimap, Killcam)

Natalia Poklonskaya:
Putin the cute in prosecute since 2014.

I can't look at my own avatar without having to pee. GG Me. GG.

I swear to god if you reply with a picture of the AEK I'll mail you a buttplug shaped like one.

The one time when "it's only three inches" is a good thing.

How do you guys control your FAMAS burst length since it fires its mag in just 1,5 seconds))
I consider each magazine a burst. :/

This is Symthic, we don't do "feels" around here ;)



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Tuesday, December 30th 2014, 8:58pm

that moment when you're in the attack chopper's gunner seat and your pilot 1) won't bring the nose up for TVM goodness and 2) gets chased out of the combat zone by fucking ARM's.


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