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Thursday, October 27th 2016, 11:43pm

Twitter is shutting down Vine

Now I don't know much about it, but from my understanding it was pretty popular. Kind of a weird move...

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Friday, October 28th 2016, 2:43am

I think i just heard an italian on empire's edge say "adesso mangerà mergherite da solo!" After killing an audttian.
translation now he will eat margherites(pizza type) alone!"

Am i the only one who find that funny? It's so stereotypical and out of place...
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Friday, October 28th 2016, 10:04am

I had a dream last night of being aboard a ship cruising down the Italian coastline and was jaw dropped by how beautiful it was.

Surely there are no snowy mountains alone the coast like in my dream though.

If you get the chance to go to the Amalfi Coast, you should go immediately.

It's amazing.
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How to ice an A-91

Next, wanna try adding a guy that you KNOW is bad, and just testing to see that? Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

PP-2000 added. Y'know, it's not that bad....

Yes, it comes in last so far, but that is mostly because I'm making it shoot at 100m ADS - Not Moving as one of the criteria. Even then, between 50-100m Not Moving, when you include Useability, it is only 1.37% worse than the MTAR-21. Within 50m then it even beats the A-91.

Have a look, vs. the A-91 Carbine:




Using it with Muzzle Brake and Compensator is a wash in terms of overall performance. Comp is SLIGHTLY more accurate, while MB is SLIGHTLY more easy to use. Their overall scores are basically tied, with MB just ahead. I guess either can be recommended.

But... You can't be counting for the fact that it takes 9 bullets to kill at "long" range... Don't you dare tell me my A-91 is worse than a 9 BTK 650 RPM mediocre PDW.

Also. Just go heavy barrel. The recoil is low enough.

Well, technically...

Comparing a PP2K with HB and an A-91 with comp and stubby (as you suggested in an earlier post), at 50m not moving, the A-91 is only better by 4 damage per hitrate. While at 75m and 100m, surprisingly the PP2K does better than the A-91 (I'm pretty damn surprised as well).

And 10m and 50m moving the PP2K also does more damage per hitrate than the A-91. At 25m the A-91 is only better by about half a bullet's damage as well.

In addition, the PP2K has a much larger mag size and substantially less recoil. And it looks hella awesome. So comparing the A-91 to a PDW is of some worth after all, as the PP2K is better (technically, not practically) than the A-91.

Mind blown.

I... I...

*cries in a corner*

Zer0Cod3x explained it very well. If you look at the raw numbers right here on Symthic Comparison, you can see how that happened:

A-91 vs PP-2000 | BF4 Weapon Comparison | Symthic

A-91's "23%" RPM advantage only afforded it 1 extra round.

Reload times are wash.

Velocities are wash.

V-Recoil are wash (and this is HBar on PP2k vs. A-91 without).

Hipfire and ADS - Moving are better on the PP2k, but it's a PDW and not the surprising part.

The surprising part is that, as equipped (and we see above that PP2k HBar has almost same V-Recoil as A-91 without HBar so why not?), the PDW performs better at 50 - 100m than a bloody Carbine. Why?

H-Recoil Spread, 0.525 vs. 0.45, advantage PP2k.

SIPS, 42% better on the PP2k.

And here is the most important part. ADS - Not Moving Spread, 0.35 vs. 0.2, 43% improvement.

Without HBar then of course the PP2k loses, which is why when I add all the attachments together for an Overall Ranking, it would slot below the A-91. Run HBar on it, though, then... I'm sorry

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I... I...
But...
Wha...
I AM HAVING AN EXISTENTIAL CRISIS IN SCHOOL BECAUSE OF YOU TWO.

FUCK YOU NERDS AND YOUR FANCY NUMBERS

SEXY RUSSIAN BULLPUPS FTW.

In all seriousness, thank you both so much for giving me the numbers. I still don't want to accept them. You have led the horse to water. I still need to drink.


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Friday, October 28th 2016, 10:19am

I had a dream last night of being aboard a ship cruising down the Italian coastline and was jaw dropped by how beautiful it was.

Surely there are no snowy mountains alone the coast like in my dream though.

If you get the chance to go to the Amalfi Coast, you should go immediately.

It's amazing.

it is.
just... don't go on the beach close to the city, the sand there is not sand, it's rocks, tiny little sharp rocks, for as good as the sea can be, you won't even be able to go barefoot there.
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Friday, October 28th 2016, 7:12pm

So, I knew there were some images of some anime with Finnish soldiers or smth (ofc anime ladies), but still didn't know this was a thing...

Not sure what to think about this. Also the song playing in video is one of the Finnish "classics": SÄKKIJÄRVEN POLKKA, Viljo Vesterinen ja Dallapé-orkesteri v.1939 - YouTube
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Friday, October 28th 2016, 7:15pm

@Miffyli

My best guess would be that it's from the recent Girls und Panzer film, or the series itself. Justincaseyouwanttowatch
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Friday, October 28th 2016, 7:41pm

Twitter is shutting down Vine

Now I don't know much about it, but from my understanding it was pretty popular. Kind of a weird move...

Actually Twitter as a whole is hemorrhaging money. They can't afford to keep Vine up because all of their 'Vine Stars' who made them money through views have moved on to other video platforms, namely Instagram and Youtube. Those two alternatives being owned by Facebook and Google respectively. Twitter has historically been unwilling to innovate their services to keep up with other social media platforms, and it's coming back to haunt them. Twitter hasn't posted a profitable year of service in a long time if I recall.

To a similar tune, Verizon bought Vessel and immediately shut it down as well.

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Friday, October 28th 2016, 7:55pm

Twitter is shutting down Vine

Now I don't know much about it, but from my understanding it was pretty popular. Kind of a weird move...

Actually Twitter as a whole is hemorrhaging money. They can't afford to keep Vine up because all of their 'Vine Stars' who made them money through views have moved on to other video platforms, namely Instagram and Youtube. Those two alternatives being owned by Facebook and Google respectively. Twitter has historically been unwilling to innovate their services to keep up with other social media platforms, and it's coming back to haunt them. Twitter hasn't posted a profitable year of service in a long time if I recall.

To a similar tune, Verizon bought Vessel and immediately shut it down as well.


Huh, interesting. I didn't think Twitter was unprofitable, considering how many people I know who use it, and a good number of them use it more than Facebook, or even use it as opposed to Facebook at all.

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Friday, October 28th 2016, 8:01pm

Huh, interesting. I didn't think Twitter was unprofitable, considering how many people I know who use it, and a good number of them use it more than Facebook, or even use it as opposed to Facebook at all.

Youtube has been losing money for years, even since before Google bought it. A lot of the major social media stuff just costs so much upkeep that they can never go into the green. In the case of Twitter though I think it's more about poor management.

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Friday, October 28th 2016, 9:20pm

@Miffyli
looks like GuP became battlefield: tanks drifting and trickshotting, tanks mounting other tanks, tanks getting stuck between rocks...

but yeah, girls und panzer is nothing new, maybe the characters, but it is something that exists from quite a decent amount of years, i hear d it isn't really bad, just... not exactly the thing that most makes sense on the planet.
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rush mode score RANK:2794 TOP:2% OUT OF:215398
obliteration mode scoreRANK:994 TOP:1% OUT OF:159466
handgun medals RANK:2236 TOP:2% OUT OF:143874
longest headshot RANK:9512 TOP:4% OUT OF:257589
recon score RANK:10871 TOP:4% OUT OF:274899
general score per minute RANK:10016 TOP:4% OUT OF:294774

bf3
31/3/2012 4:58:

Headshot distance RANK:493* TOP:0%
Revives per assault minute RANK: 6019 TOP: 3%
Headshots / kill percentage RANK:25947 TOP:13%
MVP ribbons RANK:18824 TOP:11%

*= 6 if we not count the EOD BOT headshots

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ENEMY KILLED [REASON] JSLICE20 100


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