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Monday, September 12th 2016, 11:26pm

Well, when did they add that and... why?

almost 2 years ago, and i think because they had already implemented damage-based hitmarker shapes, but people weren't happy with those so they added the color thing as well.
or at least that's what my brain remembers.
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Tuesday, September 13th 2016, 3:12am

More or less settled in here in Arizona, after being down here for about a week. Haven't unpacked my gaming PC yet, but I'm legally a resident now, I've got a sweet new motorcycle, and the job hunt is underway!

Bad weather, today. If it wasn't raining I'd be out there cruising for a job, but I'm stuck inside.

Check out this photograph from the balcony of my apartment, sun starting to set highlighting the rolling rain storms over the mountains about 30 miles away.




Here's my new moto, a 2006 Buell XB12SS "lightning". My first big bike, and it's a monster 1203cc V-Twin! Awesome ride!





Hopefully I can land a career pretty soon, hoping to get in with the MSF out here teaching full time. If that's not possible, I've got some other options to explore.
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Tuesday, September 13th 2016, 9:00am

why comp though? SCAR doesn't have a lot of HREC.

It doesn't exactly have a small amount either.

The SCAR-H is one of those guns where both HB and comp work well.
something something Model 8 bestgun


How to ice an A-91

Next, wanna try adding a guy that you KNOW is bad, and just testing to see that? Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

PP-2000 added. Y'know, it's not that bad....

Yes, it comes in last so far, but that is mostly because I'm making it shoot at 100m ADS - Not Moving as one of the criteria. Even then, between 50-100m Not Moving, when you include Useability, it is only 1.37% worse than the MTAR-21. Within 50m then it even beats the A-91.

Have a look, vs. the A-91 Carbine:




Using it with Muzzle Brake and Compensator is a wash in terms of overall performance. Comp is SLIGHTLY more accurate, while MB is SLIGHTLY more easy to use. Their overall scores are basically tied, with MB just ahead. I guess either can be recommended.

But... You can't be counting for the fact that it takes 9 bullets to kill at "long" range... Don't you dare tell me my A-91 is worse than a 9 BTK 650 RPM mediocre PDW.

Also. Just go heavy barrel. The recoil is low enough.

Well, technically...

Comparing a PP2K with HB and an A-91 with comp and stubby (as you suggested in an earlier post), at 50m not moving, the A-91 is only better by 4 damage per hitrate. While at 75m and 100m, surprisingly the PP2K does better than the A-91 (I'm pretty damn surprised as well).

And 10m and 50m moving the PP2K also does more damage per hitrate than the A-91. At 25m the A-91 is only better by about half a bullet's damage as well.

In addition, the PP2K has a much larger mag size and substantially less recoil. And it looks hella awesome. So comparing the A-91 to a PDW is of some worth after all, as the PP2K is better (technically, not practically) than the A-91.

Mind blown.

I... I...

*cries in a corner*

Zer0Cod3x explained it very well. If you look at the raw numbers right here on Symthic Comparison, you can see how that happened:

A-91 vs PP-2000 | BF4 Weapon Comparison | Symthic

A-91's "23%" RPM advantage only afforded it 1 extra round.

Reload times are wash.

Velocities are wash.

V-Recoil are wash (and this is HBar on PP2k vs. A-91 without).

Hipfire and ADS - Moving are better on the PP2k, but it's a PDW and not the surprising part.

The surprising part is that, as equipped (and we see above that PP2k HBar has almost same V-Recoil as A-91 without HBar so why not?), the PDW performs better at 50 - 100m than a bloody Carbine. Why?

H-Recoil Spread, 0.525 vs. 0.45, advantage PP2k.

SIPS, 42% better on the PP2k.

And here is the most important part. ADS - Not Moving Spread, 0.35 vs. 0.2, 43% improvement.

Without HBar then of course the PP2k loses, which is why when I add all the attachments together for an Overall Ranking, it would slot below the A-91. Run HBar on it, though, then... I'm sorry

@Veritable
@Zer0Cod3x
I... I...
But...
Wha...
I AM HAVING AN EXISTENTIAL CRISIS IN SCHOOL BECAUSE OF YOU TWO.

FUCK YOU NERDS AND YOUR FANCY NUMBERS

SEXY RUSSIAN BULLPUPS FTW.

In all seriousness, thank you both so much for giving me the numbers. I still don't want to accept them. You have led the horse to water. I still need to drink.


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Tuesday, September 13th 2016, 3:58pm

HB is really meh for the SCAR since it's a weapon very suitable for 2 round bursting. Hence the compyou don't really see any drawbacks in 2rb, and the Hrecoil is enough to throw a headshot off.

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"you obviously don't know what an argument is as there is only one person battling. Do you really fucking think I want subs? You think you can act all big and powerful just because you sit on a computer at least 6 hours a day like the probably nerdy unwanted retard you are with 4.3k subs? You think 4.3k subs is a lot? LOL you need medicine man. I don't want any subs as i just have a google account for other media and writing comments. Think twice before you act. You even said in your video you aren't that great of a player, and the comments agree you aren't. Maybe you should once again think twice before you act, stop being such an annoying, ignorant bastard that everyone wants to shut up, and god, literally, just shut up. Your voice gave me a headache :s"

"As a youtuber shouldn't be trying to be reeling in your viewers with exciting stuff being said not your boring ass commentary for your video"

"The more you watch his vid the dumber he gets I swear he's borderline autistic look I got shot behind cover beacuase thin sheets metal are unpenetrable. Bf4 is just as quiet and tactical as bf3 random explosion in the background . Player has dissconected from chat
You started playing bf3 and never touched bfc1/2. Please do yourself a favor and shutdown your generic cod channel down"

"Nice clickb8 Faggot w8ting for your shit tier video to disable comments . Fucking newfag cancer go play some cod you activisiom cock faggot"

"I don't see why he [MarbleDuck] always tries to shit on levelcap he is better and has a million more subs...and also "there isnt a best gun in she game there are guns that are better that others at different engagement distances" yes thats true and whichever is the best/most average at all of them is the "best gun""

"Marbleduck you don't know shit lol levelcap knows more than you do you cant talk about how someone puts up garbage when you do yourself your a newcomer to YouTube acting like you know shit step up in the food chain first then you have the right to talk otherwise your just a fish trying to compete with sharks"

"Why don't we just witness "LevelCap vs MarbleDuck" One on One both on Battlefield 3 and Battlefield 4 seen as there is so much Controversy about the Two Youtubers"

"stfu cunt, BF3 was way better end of discussion"

"Stfu man, you're be littleing the most looked upon Battlefield Youtuber. No one cares about you, how much of an ego you have, or quite frankly your opinion. It's a fucking game.... Does it really fucking matter? Pathetic man."

"fuck you asshole, dont talk shit about total"

"Wtf is your problem? You have no subs and he has millions, yet you pick on him like some kind of stubborn, ignorant, rude child born with a silver spoon is his mouth. It's easy to do that, for example... You said there was no background noise yet there is. You say you're a fairly good player, you're not."

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Tuesday, September 13th 2016, 5:43pm

does anyone have a screenshot of the server info screen in bf1? i really want to make all these people shut up, yes, there may not be usable 3rd party softwares for the servers, but custom servers will still ba available, otherwise why should the server info screen tell us about what class and weapons are available in that server? those weren't written in past battlefield titles, logic says that means the game will have custom servers, just not in the way some expect them.
BUT APPARENTLY NOBODY WHO HAS "authority" EVER PRESSED INFO WHEN SELECTING A SERVER
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MVP ribbons RANK:18824 TOP:11%

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Wednesday, September 14th 2016, 4:24am

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Wednesday, September 14th 2016, 12:44pm

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Wednesday, September 14th 2016, 2:20pm

all these people i don't know but that seemingly everyone else does even though i'm here from so long and with so many posts... weird.
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longest headshot RANK:9512 TOP:4% OUT OF:257589
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Headshots / kill percentage RANK:25947 TOP:13%
MVP ribbons RANK:18824 TOP:11%

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Wednesday, September 14th 2016, 3:12pm

@iota-09
I guess new BF game is bringing some guys back to forums to at least take a peek or so ^^

@LB
Heya there, you haven't been around in loooong time.
Links to users' thread list who have made analytical/statistical/mathematical/cool posts on Symthic:
  • 3VerstsNorth - Analysis of game mechanics in BF4 (tickrates, effects of tickrate, etc)
  • leptis - Analysis of shotguns, recoil, recoil control and air drag.
  • Veritable - Scoring of BF4/BF1 firearms in terms of usability, firing and other mechanics.
  • Miffyli - Random statistical analysis of BF4 battlereports/players and kill-distances. (list is cluttered with other threads).
Sorry if your name wasn't on the list, I honestly can't recall all names : ( . Nudge me if you want to be included

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Wednesday, September 14th 2016, 3:12pm

Yea I kinda died for a bit, had a run in with Viper again a few weeks ago and I've spent some time lurking. Now I'm bored to death so I guess I'll see who is still around this place :D

Don't really play BF much any more after the travesty that was the BF4 release (I know it's actually decent now), and I imagine we don't talk about Battlefront... But that said, This has always been one of the better communities I've been a part of so hey ho, might as well have a gander.

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