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Zer0Cod3x

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Sunday, November 1st 2015, 1:46am

@iota-09

In your father's pictures, is that you with the gas mask and Tavor?
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How to ice an A-91

Next, wanna try adding a guy that you KNOW is bad, and just testing to see that? Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

PP-2000 added. Y'know, it's not that bad....

Yes, it comes in last so far, but that is mostly because I'm making it shoot at 100m ADS - Not Moving as one of the criteria. Even then, between 50-100m Not Moving, when you include Useability, it is only 1.37% worse than the MTAR-21. Within 50m then it even beats the A-91.

Have a look, vs. the A-91 Carbine:




Using it with Muzzle Brake and Compensator is a wash in terms of overall performance. Comp is SLIGHTLY more accurate, while MB is SLIGHTLY more easy to use. Their overall scores are basically tied, with MB just ahead. I guess either can be recommended.

But... You can't be counting for the fact that it takes 9 bullets to kill at "long" range... Don't you dare tell me my A-91 is worse than a 9 BTK 650 RPM mediocre PDW.

Also. Just go heavy barrel. The recoil is low enough.

Well, technically...

Comparing a PP2K with HB and an A-91 with comp and stubby (as you suggested in an earlier post), at 50m not moving, the A-91 is only better by 4 damage per hitrate. While at 75m and 100m, surprisingly the PP2K does better than the A-91 (I'm pretty damn surprised as well).

And 10m and 50m moving the PP2K also does more damage per hitrate than the A-91. At 25m the A-91 is only better by about half a bullet's damage as well.

In addition, the PP2K has a much larger mag size and substantially less recoil. And it looks hella awesome. So comparing the A-91 to a PDW is of some worth after all, as the PP2K is better (technically, not practically) than the A-91.

Mind blown.

I... I...

*cries in a corner*

Zer0Cod3x explained it very well. If you look at the raw numbers right here on Symthic Comparison, you can see how that happened:

A-91 vs PP-2000 | BF4 Weapon Comparison | Symthic

A-91's "23%" RPM advantage only afforded it 1 extra round.

Reload times are wash.

Velocities are wash.

V-Recoil are wash (and this is HBar on PP2k vs. A-91 without).

Hipfire and ADS - Moving are better on the PP2k, but it's a PDW and not the surprising part.

The surprising part is that, as equipped (and we see above that PP2k HBar has almost same V-Recoil as A-91 without HBar so why not?), the PDW performs better at 50 - 100m than a bloody Carbine. Why?

H-Recoil Spread, 0.525 vs. 0.45, advantage PP2k.

SIPS, 42% better on the PP2k.

And here is the most important part. ADS - Not Moving Spread, 0.35 vs. 0.2, 43% improvement.

Without HBar then of course the PP2k loses, which is why when I add all the attachments together for an Overall Ranking, it would slot below the A-91. Run HBar on it, though, then... I'm sorry

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I... I...
But...
Wha...
I AM HAVING AN EXISTENTIAL CRISIS IN SCHOOL BECAUSE OF YOU TWO.

FUCK YOU NERDS AND YOUR FANCY NUMBERS

SEXY RUSSIAN BULLPUPS FTW.

In all seriousness, thank you both so much for giving me the numbers. I still don't want to accept them. You have led the horse to water. I still need to drink.


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Sunday, November 1st 2015, 2:02am

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the GW2 expansion - Heart of Thorns came with a new stat combination called Viper's. It's really quite popular.

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Sunday, November 1st 2015, 3:31am

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Sunday, November 1st 2015, 9:48am

@iota-09

In your father's pictures, is that you with the gas mask and Tavor?

yup, i posted the photos with me inside in the photos thread.
"I'm just a loot whore."


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bf4
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rush mode score RANK:2794 TOP:2% OUT OF:215398
obliteration mode scoreRANK:994 TOP:1% OUT OF:159466
handgun medals RANK:2236 TOP:2% OUT OF:143874
longest headshot RANK:9512 TOP:4% OUT OF:257589
recon score RANK:10871 TOP:4% OUT OF:274899
general score per minute RANK:10016 TOP:4% OUT OF:294774

bf3
31/3/2012 4:58:

Headshot distance RANK:493* TOP:0%
Revives per assault minute RANK: 6019 TOP: 3%
Headshots / kill percentage RANK:25947 TOP:13%
MVP ribbons RANK:18824 TOP:11%

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Sunday, November 1st 2015, 1:36pm

Gratz Viper :o

I baked a cake... but I eated it...


Thank you :)

…Now go make another one :P

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Sunday, November 1st 2015, 5:43pm

Gratz Viper :o

I baked a cake... but I eated it...


Thank you :)

…Now go make another one :P

Baking bullets atm :>

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Sunday, November 1st 2015, 11:42pm

Gratz Viper :o

I baked a cake... but I eated it...


Thank you :)

…Now go make another one :P

Baking bullets atm :>


Oooo, can I have one? 8o

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Monday, November 2nd 2015, 1:12am

Gratz Viper :o

I baked a cake... but I eated it...


Thank you :)

…Now go make another one :P

Baking bullets atm :>


Oooo, can I have one? 8o

Sure, it's coming towards you at about 360 m/s though :>

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Monday, November 2nd 2015, 2:38am

Oooo, can I have one?
Poor Brit
Altoids...

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Monday, November 2nd 2015, 7:52am


Sure, it's coming towards you at about 360 m/s though :>


HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
I'll be sure to jump up and catch it with my face, like a dog with a frisbee :D

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