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Zer0Cod3x

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Monday, September 28th 2015, 5:06pm

The thing is, LC got a ton of comments on his previous Groza-4 video saying it had an integrated HB, I know I did and iota did as well. And not to mention how many messages on social media he must have gotten telling him it has it integrated.

"I read every comment on every video"
something something Model 8 bestgun


How to ice an A-91

Next, wanna try adding a guy that you KNOW is bad, and just testing to see that? Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

PP-2000 added. Y'know, it's not that bad....

Yes, it comes in last so far, but that is mostly because I'm making it shoot at 100m ADS - Not Moving as one of the criteria. Even then, between 50-100m Not Moving, when you include Useability, it is only 1.37% worse than the MTAR-21. Within 50m then it even beats the A-91.

Have a look, vs. the A-91 Carbine:




Using it with Muzzle Brake and Compensator is a wash in terms of overall performance. Comp is SLIGHTLY more accurate, while MB is SLIGHTLY more easy to use. Their overall scores are basically tied, with MB just ahead. I guess either can be recommended.

But... You can't be counting for the fact that it takes 9 bullets to kill at "long" range... Don't you dare tell me my A-91 is worse than a 9 BTK 650 RPM mediocre PDW.

Also. Just go heavy barrel. The recoil is low enough.

Well, technically...

Comparing a PP2K with HB and an A-91 with comp and stubby (as you suggested in an earlier post), at 50m not moving, the A-91 is only better by 4 damage per hitrate. While at 75m and 100m, surprisingly the PP2K does better than the A-91 (I'm pretty damn surprised as well).

And 10m and 50m moving the PP2K also does more damage per hitrate than the A-91. At 25m the A-91 is only better by about half a bullet's damage as well.

In addition, the PP2K has a much larger mag size and substantially less recoil. And it looks hella awesome. So comparing the A-91 to a PDW is of some worth after all, as the PP2K is better (technically, not practically) than the A-91.

Mind blown.

I... I...

*cries in a corner*

Zer0Cod3x explained it very well. If you look at the raw numbers right here on Symthic Comparison, you can see how that happened:

A-91 vs PP-2000 | BF4 Weapon Comparison | Symthic

A-91's "23%" RPM advantage only afforded it 1 extra round.

Reload times are wash.

Velocities are wash.

V-Recoil are wash (and this is HBar on PP2k vs. A-91 without).

Hipfire and ADS - Moving are better on the PP2k, but it's a PDW and not the surprising part.

The surprising part is that, as equipped (and we see above that PP2k HBar has almost same V-Recoil as A-91 without HBar so why not?), the PDW performs better at 50 - 100m than a bloody Carbine. Why?

H-Recoil Spread, 0.525 vs. 0.45, advantage PP2k.

SIPS, 42% better on the PP2k.

And here is the most important part. ADS - Not Moving Spread, 0.35 vs. 0.2, 43% improvement.

Without HBar then of course the PP2k loses, which is why when I add all the attachments together for an Overall Ranking, it would slot below the A-91. Run HBar on it, though, then... I'm sorry

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I... I...
But...
Wha...
I AM HAVING AN EXISTENTIAL CRISIS IN SCHOOL BECAUSE OF YOU TWO.

FUCK YOU NERDS AND YOUR FANCY NUMBERS

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In all seriousness, thank you both so much for giving me the numbers. I still don't want to accept them. You have led the horse to water. I still need to drink.


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Monday, September 28th 2015, 5:44pm

I'm rather annoyed actually. Had no idea the blood moon was up so despite being unable to sleep until about 02:00, I never looked out the window once :pinch:

It didn't really start until ~3 here, the main thing being between 4-6 and at the most at 04:47, dunno if it's the same in other areas... So even if you looked out at 2 you probably wouldn't have noticed anything

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Monday, September 28th 2015, 6:05pm

I'm rather annoyed actually. Had no idea the blood moon was up so despite being unable to sleep until about 02:00, I never looked out the window once :pinch:
It wasn't anything particularly special, I enjoyed the view of what was around far more than a pink tinted moon.

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Monday, September 28th 2015, 6:39pm

Playing Alien:Isolation is the most fun you can have while in soiled underwear

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"I put aside a few sceptics, the types of decency in the history of philosophy: the rest haven't the slightest conception of intellectual integrity."
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Best of epic quotes :D

Spoiler Spoiler

Just realized it's 4/20 tomorrow


Thanks for the heads up!
*Logs out of Symthic in preparation*

Hardline is a fun and sometimes silly Cops and Robbers sorta thing and I think that's great. Or it would be if it didn't suck.

>littlebird passanger, semi-auto frag rounds
>gunship OP

Meanwhile at DICE-headquarters during BF4's release:

I'm pretty sure there's a massive post-it on every desk "DON'T FUCKING TOUCH ANYTHING THAT IS ACTUALLY DOING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOING"

UCAV:
"Hey guys remember how stupid prenerf mav was?"

"Lets add c4 to it."

The World Champion went to China once.

They called me a Gweilo.

So I kicked a big fucking hole in their wall and let all the Mongolians in.

just thought I'd share.


The thought of Assaults running out of ACE 23 rounds mid firefight, Engineers facing the rear of an unaware MBT with no rockets left, Recons unable to...Whatever the fuck they do. These are the things that keep me up at night ;(


About hunturk:
I don't know what's funnier, the video itself of the fact that an unlisted video has more views than most of your normal videos :P

...


You just live to hit people upside the noggin with a Math Bomb, don't you?

[context] Maybe it's the UK's overly aggressive porn filter at work. After all, it does have the word "monkey" in it and monkeys have been known to have sex so...


Previously, at DICE HQ:
"Ok guys, the password is "epic dream worlds"; everyone take a letter and do your best to turn it into into something random that we can put into a picture!"


I assume a functional game (BF4) also.

Aww!
*pinches cheeks*
So cute!


But but but

He's a Youtuber ;(

There's no way he doesn't know what he's talking about


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Monday, September 28th 2015, 6:59pm

Playing Alien:Isolation is the most fun you can have while in soiled underwear

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Ahhh, good horror games. There's is a special kind of fun that only they can provide: A combination of the conflicting emotions of "This is an exhilarating yet highly enjoyable adventure" and "OH MY FUCK NO WHY OH GOD NO PLEASE NOT MY SKIN OH FUCKING KILL ME NO ACTUALLY DON'T I CHOOSE LIIIIIIIIFFFFFEEEEE AHHHHAAAAAHHHHAAAAAHHHAAAAAAA".
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Monday, September 28th 2015, 7:14pm

Playing Alien:Isolation is the most fun you can have while in soiled underwear

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Ahhh, good horror games. There's is a special kind of fun that only they can provide: A combination of the conflicting emotions of "This is an exhilarating yet highly enjoyable adventure" and "OH MY FUCK NO WHY OH GOD NO PLEASE NOT MY SKIN OH FUCKING KILL ME NO ACTUALLY DON'T I CHOOSE LIIIIIIIIFFFFFEEEEE AHHHHAAAAAHHHHAAAAAHHHAAAAAAA".
:P

....this may have just been the best description of horror survival games EVER :D
"I put aside a few sceptics, the types of decency in the history of philosophy: the rest haven't the slightest conception of intellectual integrity."
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Best of epic quotes :D

Spoiler Spoiler

Just realized it's 4/20 tomorrow


Thanks for the heads up!
*Logs out of Symthic in preparation*

Hardline is a fun and sometimes silly Cops and Robbers sorta thing and I think that's great. Or it would be if it didn't suck.

>littlebird passanger, semi-auto frag rounds
>gunship OP

Meanwhile at DICE-headquarters during BF4's release:

I'm pretty sure there's a massive post-it on every desk "DON'T FUCKING TOUCH ANYTHING THAT IS ACTUALLY DOING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOING"

UCAV:
"Hey guys remember how stupid prenerf mav was?"

"Lets add c4 to it."

The World Champion went to China once.

They called me a Gweilo.

So I kicked a big fucking hole in their wall and let all the Mongolians in.

just thought I'd share.


The thought of Assaults running out of ACE 23 rounds mid firefight, Engineers facing the rear of an unaware MBT with no rockets left, Recons unable to...Whatever the fuck they do. These are the things that keep me up at night ;(


About hunturk:
I don't know what's funnier, the video itself of the fact that an unlisted video has more views than most of your normal videos :P

...


You just live to hit people upside the noggin with a Math Bomb, don't you?

[context] Maybe it's the UK's overly aggressive porn filter at work. After all, it does have the word "monkey" in it and monkeys have been known to have sex so...


Previously, at DICE HQ:
"Ok guys, the password is "epic dream worlds"; everyone take a letter and do your best to turn it into into something random that we can put into a picture!"


I assume a functional game (BF4) also.

Aww!
*pinches cheeks*
So cute!


But but but

He's a Youtuber ;(

There's no way he doesn't know what he's talking about


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Monday, September 28th 2015, 7:19pm

Playing Alien:Isolation is the most fun you can have while in soiled underwear

:|


Ahhh, good horror games. There's is a special kind of fun that only they can provide: A combination of the conflicting emotions of "This is an exhilarating yet highly enjoyable adventure" and "OH MY FUCK NO WHY OH GOD NO PLEASE NOT MY SKIN OH FUCKING KILL ME NO ACTUALLY DON'T I CHOOSE LIIIIIIIIFFFFFEEEEE AHHHHAAAAAHHHHAAAAAHHHAAAAAAA".
:P

....this may have just been the best description of horror survival games EVER :D


*Bows*
*Crawls back under rock with "42 days until Fallout 4" scratched on it*
:D

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Song currently stuck in my head is: Red Cold River by Breaking Benjamin!

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Monday, September 28th 2015, 7:41pm

Playing Alien:Isolation is the most fun you can have while in soiled underwear

:|


Ahhh, good horror games. There's is a special kind of fun that only they can provide: A combination of the conflicting emotions of "This is an exhilarating yet highly enjoyable adventure" and "OH MY FUCK NO WHY OH GOD NO PLEASE NOT MY SKIN OH FUCKING KILL ME NO ACTUALLY DON'T I CHOOSE LIIIIIIIIFFFFFEEEEE AHHHHAAAAAHHHHAAAAAHHHAAAAAAA".
:P

....this may have just been the best description of horror survival games EVER :D


*Bows*
*Crawls back under rock with "42 days until Fallout 4" scratched on it*
:D

[reusing Hitchhiker's Guide meme]

42 days until Fallout 4...but 42 is the meaning of life...which means that WAITING FOR FALLOUT 4 IS THE MEANING OF LIFE. WHEN IT COMES OUT, YOUR LIFE IS DONE. THERE IS NOTHING MORE LEFT.

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Monday, September 28th 2015, 7:45pm

42 days until Fallout 4...but 42 is the meaning of life...which means that WAITING FOR FALLOUT 4 IS THE MEANING OF LIFE. WHEN IT COMES OUT, YOUR LIFE IS DONE. THERE IS NOTHING MORE LEFT.


YES! YES THAT IS GOING ON THE MOTHERFUCKING QUOTE LIST!!!
*Reaches through the internet and gives Nick a can of Irn Bru with "Cool. Fucking. Beans" written on it*

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Monday, September 28th 2015, 8:03pm

@LucidNonsenze

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Are you familiar with these at all? Picked up a pair for 500, planning on selling them on but just curious if you know anything about them.
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