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ViperFTW

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Wednesday, April 13th 2016, 6:30pm

Honestly, I am not expecting a whole lot of it. The sheer amount of negative reviews is just....woah


Ehugh...
I've seen a lot of "Wanted Quake, got Halo" reviews but, to be honest, it still looks like a fucking great game, and I really can't see it being any worse than Battlefield 4's multiplayer so I'm still on board for the foreseeable future :)
Still haven't figured out how I'm going to slot it in around Far Harbour, but I'll think of something I'm sure :P

Good to be in England where people speak in such a sophisticated way.


Wey aye man! We aal taak propa' aroond 'ere :thumbsup:
Just don't go up Vipers way, they barely speak English up there.


If it's any concelation, there are places in Newcastle (where I have lived all of my 23 years) where I still can't understand what people are saying :D

Good to be in England where people speak in such a sophisticated way.


Wey aye man! We aal taak propa' aroond 'ere :thumbsup:
Just don't go up Vipers way, they barely speak English up there.
All'of y'all derps who ain't even capable of speakin' proper 'Murrrican.


10/10, read that in your voice :P

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Wednesday, April 13th 2016, 7:05pm

Could always just live up in the North-East US and speak non-butchered English... :rolleyes:

So long as yinz stay away from Pittsburgh

Poll says Pittsburgh accent is 'America's ugliest' | Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

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Wednesday, April 13th 2016, 7:19pm

Could always just live up in the North-East US and speak non-butchered English... :rolleyes:

So long as yinz stay away from Pittsburgh

Poll says Pittsburgh accent is 'America's ugliest' | Pittsburgh Post-Gazette


Stay away from it? Ha, if I ever go to that part of the US I'mma appear at your door ASAP 8o

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Thursday, April 14th 2016, 6:33am

If it's any concelation, there are places in Newcastle (where I have lived all of my 23 years) where I still can't understand what people are saying

English checks out
something something Model 8 bestgun


How to ice an A-91

Next, wanna try adding a guy that you KNOW is bad, and just testing to see that? Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

PP-2000 added. Y'know, it's not that bad....

Yes, it comes in last so far, but that is mostly because I'm making it shoot at 100m ADS - Not Moving as one of the criteria. Even then, between 50-100m Not Moving, when you include Useability, it is only 1.37% worse than the MTAR-21. Within 50m then it even beats the A-91.

Have a look, vs. the A-91 Carbine:




Using it with Muzzle Brake and Compensator is a wash in terms of overall performance. Comp is SLIGHTLY more accurate, while MB is SLIGHTLY more easy to use. Their overall scores are basically tied, with MB just ahead. I guess either can be recommended.

But... You can't be counting for the fact that it takes 9 bullets to kill at "long" range... Don't you dare tell me my A-91 is worse than a 9 BTK 650 RPM mediocre PDW.

Also. Just go heavy barrel. The recoil is low enough.

Well, technically...

Comparing a PP2K with HB and an A-91 with comp and stubby (as you suggested in an earlier post), at 50m not moving, the A-91 is only better by 4 damage per hitrate. While at 75m and 100m, surprisingly the PP2K does better than the A-91 (I'm pretty damn surprised as well).

And 10m and 50m moving the PP2K also does more damage per hitrate than the A-91. At 25m the A-91 is only better by about half a bullet's damage as well.

In addition, the PP2K has a much larger mag size and substantially less recoil. And it looks hella awesome. So comparing the A-91 to a PDW is of some worth after all, as the PP2K is better (technically, not practically) than the A-91.

Mind blown.

I... I...

*cries in a corner*

Zer0Cod3x explained it very well. If you look at the raw numbers right here on Symthic Comparison, you can see how that happened:

A-91 vs PP-2000 | BF4 Weapon Comparison | Symthic

A-91's "23%" RPM advantage only afforded it 1 extra round.

Reload times are wash.

Velocities are wash.

V-Recoil are wash (and this is HBar on PP2k vs. A-91 without).

Hipfire and ADS - Moving are better on the PP2k, but it's a PDW and not the surprising part.

The surprising part is that, as equipped (and we see above that PP2k HBar has almost same V-Recoil as A-91 without HBar so why not?), the PDW performs better at 50 - 100m than a bloody Carbine. Why?

H-Recoil Spread, 0.525 vs. 0.45, advantage PP2k.

SIPS, 42% better on the PP2k.

And here is the most important part. ADS - Not Moving Spread, 0.35 vs. 0.2, 43% improvement.

Without HBar then of course the PP2k loses, which is why when I add all the attachments together for an Overall Ranking, it would slot below the A-91. Run HBar on it, though, then... I'm sorry

@Veritable
@Zer0Cod3x
I... I...
But...
Wha...
I AM HAVING AN EXISTENTIAL CRISIS IN SCHOOL BECAUSE OF YOU TWO.

FUCK YOU NERDS AND YOUR FANCY NUMBERS

SEXY RUSSIAN BULLPUPS FTW.

In all seriousness, thank you both so much for giving me the numbers. I still don't want to accept them. You have led the horse to water. I still need to drink.


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Friday, April 15th 2016, 9:36pm

I FOUND MY OLD NINTENDO DS AND OMG NOSTALGIA POKEMON MARIO ZELDA EVERYWHERE AAAAHHHH 8o 8o 8o 8o 8o 8o 8o 8o
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Just realized it's 4/20 tomorrow


Thanks for the heads up!
*Logs out of Symthic in preparation*

Hardline is a fun and sometimes silly Cops and Robbers sorta thing and I think that's great. Or it would be if it didn't suck.

>littlebird passanger, semi-auto frag rounds
>gunship OP

Meanwhile at DICE-headquarters during BF4's release:

I'm pretty sure there's a massive post-it on every desk "DON'T FUCKING TOUCH ANYTHING THAT IS ACTUALLY DOING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOING"

UCAV:
"Hey guys remember how stupid prenerf mav was?"

"Lets add c4 to it."

The World Champion went to China once.

They called me a Gweilo.

So I kicked a big fucking hole in their wall and let all the Mongolians in.

just thought I'd share.


The thought of Assaults running out of ACE 23 rounds mid firefight, Engineers facing the rear of an unaware MBT with no rockets left, Recons unable to...Whatever the fuck they do. These are the things that keep me up at night ;(


About hunturk:
I don't know what's funnier, the video itself of the fact that an unlisted video has more views than most of your normal videos :P

...


You just live to hit people upside the noggin with a Math Bomb, don't you?

[context] Maybe it's the UK's overly aggressive porn filter at work. After all, it does have the word "monkey" in it and monkeys have been known to have sex so...


Previously, at DICE HQ:
"Ok guys, the password is "epic dream worlds"; everyone take a letter and do your best to turn it into into something random that we can put into a picture!"


I assume a functional game (BF4) also.

Aww!
*pinches cheeks*
So cute!


But but but

He's a Youtuber ;(

There's no way he doesn't know what he's talking about


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Sunday, April 17th 2016, 12:49am

I've been to an Asda up north, never heard "oatmeal" pronounced as the clerk did.
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Sunday, April 17th 2016, 1:35am

I've been to an Asda up north, never heard "oatmeal" pronounced as the clerk did.


Well it couldn't of been THAT far up North, everyone up here call its 'Porridge' :P

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Sunday, April 17th 2016, 9:52am

I've been to an Asda up north, never heard "oatmeal" pronounced as the clerk did.


Well it couldn't of been THAT far up North, everyone up here call its 'Porridge' :P


I was looking for oats themselves but forgot the name at the time, so he just repeated what I said.
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Sunday, April 17th 2016, 5:49pm

@ViperFTW
@Haber
AFAIK oatmeal and porridge share the same relationship as a square and a rectangle: oatmeal is a type of porridge, but porridge can use any type of grain, cereal or legume (examples: corn, rice, wheat, barley, etc.).

In other news: remember that package I sent to an aircraft carrier? Well, apparently the feds figured it out and sent it to it was supposed to go, cuz the buyer just messaged me about it. Glad to have that out of my hair.

Also: fuckin' beautiful outside. 70F, bluebird sky. Half-tempted to take the Tippmann out and do that hop-up mod I've been putting off.
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I'm completely serious. Well, seriously insane actually :P

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I can't look at my own avatar without having to pee. GG Me. GG.

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I consider each magazine a burst. :/

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