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Wednesday, January 27th 2016, 8:09pm

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Oh no! Gluten!

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Wednesday, January 27th 2016, 9:15pm

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a moment of silence for celiacs.

missing on gluten, one of the most delicious things in the world, right after lactose... and there's people who will never be able to taste them without getting a heart attack or anyway feeling extremely bad.
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Wednesday, January 27th 2016, 11:26pm

missing on gluten, one of the most delicious things in the world, right after lactose... and there's people who will never be able to taste them without getting a heart attack or anyway feeling extremely bad.

I spent 24 years drinking milk with lactose. 2 years ago, i changed to lactose-free. It tastes absolutely the same. I'm going to hazard a guess and a say gluten-free shit tastes the same, as well.

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Wednesday, January 27th 2016, 11:39pm

missing on gluten, one of the most delicious things in the world, right after lactose... and there's people who will never be able to taste them without getting a heart attack or anyway feeling extremely bad.

I spent 24 years drinking milk with lactose. 2 years ago, i changed to lactose-free. It tastes absolutely the same. I'm going to hazard a guess and a say gluten-free shit tastes the same, as well.

who said i'm talking about milk itself? (although i drink partially diluited, as full makes my stomach go to hell and 0% tastes like dirty water)
also regarding gluten free stuff... i personally never tried it, but my mother has followed a course of gluten-free cooking, and even she(which is not a great taster, although a pretty good chef) could feel the pain of those eating her gluten-free pasta, no matter how good her skills were.

also gluten-free pasta it's one of the hardest things to cook in the world, at least with proper consistency, if you're fine fine with raw or mushed-like-consistency pasta, then go for it.
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handgun medals RANK:2236 TOP:2% OUT OF:143874
longest headshot RANK:9512 TOP:4% OUT OF:257589
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MVP ribbons RANK:18824 TOP:11%

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Thursday, January 28th 2016, 1:28am

who said i'm talking about milk itself?

You weren't. You were talking about a sub-category of nutrients, which has little bearing in how milk tastes.

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Thursday, January 28th 2016, 3:03am

I'm going to hazard a guess and a say gluten-free shit tastes the same, as well.
I spent a few years gluten-free (cuz parents): it does not. Gluten-free stuff does taste different (mainly because you can't use normal whole wheat or white flour and that's what a large portion of baked goods are made of), is usually a lot drier, and is usually a bitch to prepare. Gluten-free goods usually are sold frozen too since their shelf lives are total shit.
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Thursday, January 28th 2016, 8:48am

I'm going to hazard a guess and a say gluten-free shit tastes the same, as well.
I spent a few years gluten-free (cuz parents): it does not. Gluten-free stuff does taste different (mainly because you can't use normal whole wheat or white flour and that's what a large portion of baked goods are made of), is usually a lot drier, and is usually a bitch to prepare. Gluten-free goods usually are sold frozen too since their shelf lives are total shit.


So what's the point of gluten free then? As it is now, its more of a lifestyle product and the actual usefulness ignored. Same with vegan. Infected from lifestyle syndrom.
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Thursday, January 28th 2016, 8:55am

missing on gluten, one of the most delicious things in the world, right after lactose... and there's people who will never be able to taste them without getting a heart attack or anyway feeling extremely bad.

I spent 24 years drinking milk with lactose. 2 years ago, i changed to lactose-free. It tastes absolutely the same. I'm going to hazard a guess and a say gluten-free shit tastes the same, as well.

I've tried lactose-free milk before, and IMO it tastes like absolute crap. Full cream is the way to go.

Lactose-free tastes a lot sweeter (in a bad way) from my experience.

On average, I drink about 2-3 cups of milk per day.
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Next, wanna try adding a guy that you KNOW is bad, and just testing to see that? Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

PP-2000 added. Y'know, it's not that bad....

Yes, it comes in last so far, but that is mostly because I'm making it shoot at 100m ADS - Not Moving as one of the criteria. Even then, between 50-100m Not Moving, when you include Useability, it is only 1.37% worse than the MTAR-21. Within 50m then it even beats the A-91.

Have a look, vs. the A-91 Carbine:




Using it with Muzzle Brake and Compensator is a wash in terms of overall performance. Comp is SLIGHTLY more accurate, while MB is SLIGHTLY more easy to use. Their overall scores are basically tied, with MB just ahead. I guess either can be recommended.

But... You can't be counting for the fact that it takes 9 bullets to kill at "long" range... Don't you dare tell me my A-91 is worse than a 9 BTK 650 RPM mediocre PDW.

Also. Just go heavy barrel. The recoil is low enough.

Well, technically...

Comparing a PP2K with HB and an A-91 with comp and stubby (as you suggested in an earlier post), at 50m not moving, the A-91 is only better by 4 damage per hitrate. While at 75m and 100m, surprisingly the PP2K does better than the A-91 (I'm pretty damn surprised as well).

And 10m and 50m moving the PP2K also does more damage per hitrate than the A-91. At 25m the A-91 is only better by about half a bullet's damage as well.

In addition, the PP2K has a much larger mag size and substantially less recoil. And it looks hella awesome. So comparing the A-91 to a PDW is of some worth after all, as the PP2K is better (technically, not practically) than the A-91.

Mind blown.

I... I...

*cries in a corner*

Zer0Cod3x explained it very well. If you look at the raw numbers right here on Symthic Comparison, you can see how that happened:

A-91 vs PP-2000 | BF4 Weapon Comparison | Symthic

A-91's "23%" RPM advantage only afforded it 1 extra round.

Reload times are wash.

Velocities are wash.

V-Recoil are wash (and this is HBar on PP2k vs. A-91 without).

Hipfire and ADS - Moving are better on the PP2k, but it's a PDW and not the surprising part.

The surprising part is that, as equipped (and we see above that PP2k HBar has almost same V-Recoil as A-91 without HBar so why not?), the PDW performs better at 50 - 100m than a bloody Carbine. Why?

H-Recoil Spread, 0.525 vs. 0.45, advantage PP2k.

SIPS, 42% better on the PP2k.

And here is the most important part. ADS - Not Moving Spread, 0.35 vs. 0.2, 43% improvement.

Without HBar then of course the PP2k loses, which is why when I add all the attachments together for an Overall Ranking, it would slot below the A-91. Run HBar on it, though, then... I'm sorry

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Thursday, January 28th 2016, 10:24am

Lactose-free tastes a lot sweeter (in a bad way) from my experience.

They're adding shit, then, to the milk you're buying because lactose is a sugar, and not a very complex one. If anything, it should taste sweeter WITH lactose, but it just doesn't. The only thing that impacts taste in any relevant way is skim vs whole.

Also, i don't know why you mentioned whole milk when comparing taste between lactose-free and with lactose. 2 very different concepts.

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Thursday, January 28th 2016, 10:41am

Does full cream milk not contain lactose?

Edit: I checked the ingredient list. It has low fat milk (1.3% cream) and enzyme (lactase). That's it. Unless lactase sweetens the milk, I stand by my original statement.

I've also tried other lactose-free milks, and they all taste sweet to me.
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How to ice an A-91

Next, wanna try adding a guy that you KNOW is bad, and just testing to see that? Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

PP-2000 added. Y'know, it's not that bad....

Yes, it comes in last so far, but that is mostly because I'm making it shoot at 100m ADS - Not Moving as one of the criteria. Even then, between 50-100m Not Moving, when you include Useability, it is only 1.37% worse than the MTAR-21. Within 50m then it even beats the A-91.

Have a look, vs. the A-91 Carbine:




Using it with Muzzle Brake and Compensator is a wash in terms of overall performance. Comp is SLIGHTLY more accurate, while MB is SLIGHTLY more easy to use. Their overall scores are basically tied, with MB just ahead. I guess either can be recommended.

But... You can't be counting for the fact that it takes 9 bullets to kill at "long" range... Don't you dare tell me my A-91 is worse than a 9 BTK 650 RPM mediocre PDW.

Also. Just go heavy barrel. The recoil is low enough.

Well, technically...

Comparing a PP2K with HB and an A-91 with comp and stubby (as you suggested in an earlier post), at 50m not moving, the A-91 is only better by 4 damage per hitrate. While at 75m and 100m, surprisingly the PP2K does better than the A-91 (I'm pretty damn surprised as well).

And 10m and 50m moving the PP2K also does more damage per hitrate than the A-91. At 25m the A-91 is only better by about half a bullet's damage as well.

In addition, the PP2K has a much larger mag size and substantially less recoil. And it looks hella awesome. So comparing the A-91 to a PDW is of some worth after all, as the PP2K is better (technically, not practically) than the A-91.

Mind blown.

I... I...

*cries in a corner*

Zer0Cod3x explained it very well. If you look at the raw numbers right here on Symthic Comparison, you can see how that happened:

A-91 vs PP-2000 | BF4 Weapon Comparison | Symthic

A-91's "23%" RPM advantage only afforded it 1 extra round.

Reload times are wash.

Velocities are wash.

V-Recoil are wash (and this is HBar on PP2k vs. A-91 without).

Hipfire and ADS - Moving are better on the PP2k, but it's a PDW and not the surprising part.

The surprising part is that, as equipped (and we see above that PP2k HBar has almost same V-Recoil as A-91 without HBar so why not?), the PDW performs better at 50 - 100m than a bloody Carbine. Why?

H-Recoil Spread, 0.525 vs. 0.45, advantage PP2k.

SIPS, 42% better on the PP2k.

And here is the most important part. ADS - Not Moving Spread, 0.35 vs. 0.2, 43% improvement.

Without HBar then of course the PP2k loses, which is why when I add all the attachments together for an Overall Ranking, it would slot below the A-91. Run HBar on it, though, then... I'm sorry

@Veritable
@Zer0Cod3x
I... I...
But...
Wha...
I AM HAVING AN EXISTENTIAL CRISIS IN SCHOOL BECAUSE OF YOU TWO.

FUCK YOU NERDS AND YOUR FANCY NUMBERS

SEXY RUSSIAN BULLPUPS FTW.

In all seriousness, thank you both so much for giving me the numbers. I still don't want to accept them. You have led the horse to water. I still need to drink.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Zer0Cod3x" (Jan 28th 2016, 10:49am)