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Thursday, January 19th 2017, 3:07pm

The rifle lives!

Despite the bulge the rifle works fine, it actually seem to work better than before somehow. oO Shot 5cm groupings at 100 meters, better than it ever has before...


Brb, making pipe bombs out of the rest of the rifles to improve their accuracy 8o


Stat reroll, obviously!
L60 Dented Rifle
- 5% damage
-25% critical hit damage
+30% accuracy
+10% handling
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Thursday, January 19th 2017, 6:56pm

The rifle lives!

Despite the bulge the rifle works fine, it actually seem to work better than before somehow. oO Shot 5cm groupings at 100 meters, better than it ever has before...


Brb, making pipe bombs out of the rest of the rifles to improve their accuracy 8o


Stat reroll, obviously!
L60 Dented Rifle
- 5% damage
-25% critical hit damage
+30% accuracy
+10% handling
:P

Tbh I'm not sure the damage was that affected :>

It might be marginally slower (chronograph had been left on so no battery left, doh.) But with a 12.17mm bullet traveling at about mach 1 I'm not sure it would matter that much... :>

Took some slow motion shots, shitty quality but quite interesting... 420 and 1000 fps, played at, 29 fps? ;o
My father doing the shooting as I didn't feel like blowing up on that day :>

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On the "Slow 1860 snett framifrån 4"you can actually see the bullet on one frame :>

Also managed to film through a spotting scope with a Chinese scope phone holder where you can actually see the bullet fly in, not uploaded though because shit audio and sideways etc.. :>

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Thursday, January 19th 2017, 7:36pm

Man I needed a smile, and those videos provided it, thankyou!
So glad she's OK!!

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Friday, January 20th 2017, 7:45am

something something Model 8 bestgun


How to ice an A-91

Next, wanna try adding a guy that you KNOW is bad, and just testing to see that? Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

PP-2000 added. Y'know, it's not that bad....

Yes, it comes in last so far, but that is mostly because I'm making it shoot at 100m ADS - Not Moving as one of the criteria. Even then, between 50-100m Not Moving, when you include Useability, it is only 1.37% worse than the MTAR-21. Within 50m then it even beats the A-91.

Have a look, vs. the A-91 Carbine:




Using it with Muzzle Brake and Compensator is a wash in terms of overall performance. Comp is SLIGHTLY more accurate, while MB is SLIGHTLY more easy to use. Their overall scores are basically tied, with MB just ahead. I guess either can be recommended.

But... You can't be counting for the fact that it takes 9 bullets to kill at "long" range... Don't you dare tell me my A-91 is worse than a 9 BTK 650 RPM mediocre PDW.

Also. Just go heavy barrel. The recoil is low enough.

Well, technically...

Comparing a PP2K with HB and an A-91 with comp and stubby (as you suggested in an earlier post), at 50m not moving, the A-91 is only better by 4 damage per hitrate. While at 75m and 100m, surprisingly the PP2K does better than the A-91 (I'm pretty damn surprised as well).

And 10m and 50m moving the PP2K also does more damage per hitrate than the A-91. At 25m the A-91 is only better by about half a bullet's damage as well.

In addition, the PP2K has a much larger mag size and substantially less recoil. And it looks hella awesome. So comparing the A-91 to a PDW is of some worth after all, as the PP2K is better (technically, not practically) than the A-91.

Mind blown.

I... I...

*cries in a corner*

Zer0Cod3x explained it very well. If you look at the raw numbers right here on Symthic Comparison, you can see how that happened:

A-91 vs PP-2000 | BF4 Weapon Comparison | Symthic

A-91's "23%" RPM advantage only afforded it 1 extra round.

Reload times are wash.

Velocities are wash.

V-Recoil are wash (and this is HBar on PP2k vs. A-91 without).

Hipfire and ADS - Moving are better on the PP2k, but it's a PDW and not the surprising part.

The surprising part is that, as equipped (and we see above that PP2k HBar has almost same V-Recoil as A-91 without HBar so why not?), the PDW performs better at 50 - 100m than a bloody Carbine. Why?

H-Recoil Spread, 0.525 vs. 0.45, advantage PP2k.

SIPS, 42% better on the PP2k.

And here is the most important part. ADS - Not Moving Spread, 0.35 vs. 0.2, 43% improvement.

Without HBar then of course the PP2k loses, which is why when I add all the attachments together for an Overall Ranking, it would slot below the A-91. Run HBar on it, though, then... I'm sorry

@Veritable
@Zer0Cod3x
I... I...
But...
Wha...
I AM HAVING AN EXISTENTIAL CRISIS IN SCHOOL BECAUSE OF YOU TWO.

FUCK YOU NERDS AND YOUR FANCY NUMBERS

SEXY RUSSIAN BULLPUPS FTW.

In all seriousness, thank you both so much for giving me the numbers. I still don't want to accept them. You have led the horse to water. I still need to drink.


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Saturday, January 21st 2017, 7:08am

Because too many people can't get past the TV show, we've decided on a different name for the puppy.
He's not "Archer" anymore, now he's "Franklin".
I like it, my sis and niece like it, he seems to be responding to it already, so I think we're good.
All bike, all the time!

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Saturday, January 21st 2017, 8:00am

it's a much more boring name, but hey, it's a dog not tv series character, whatever you guys like works the best.
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obliteration mode scoreRANK:994 TOP:1% OUT OF:159466
handgun medals RANK:2236 TOP:2% OUT OF:143874
longest headshot RANK:9512 TOP:4% OUT OF:257589
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Revives per assault minute RANK: 6019 TOP: 3%
Headshots / kill percentage RANK:25947 TOP:13%
MVP ribbons RANK:18824 TOP:11%

*= 6 if we not count the EOD BOT headshots

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Saturday, January 21st 2017, 10:58am

Aw, and here I thought you named him after me as I'm an archer :S

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Sunday, January 29th 2017, 6:55pm

2 day IPSC RO course cleared, so I'm now an IPSC range officer, just need 3 competitions to be fully official :>

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Monday, January 30th 2017, 12:29am

what exactly do you do in that position? and what are yor gains from it? (i assume it's also considered a job? )
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bf4
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rush mode score RANK:2794 TOP:2% OUT OF:215398
obliteration mode scoreRANK:994 TOP:1% OUT OF:159466
handgun medals RANK:2236 TOP:2% OUT OF:143874
longest headshot RANK:9512 TOP:4% OUT OF:257589
recon score RANK:10871 TOP:4% OUT OF:274899
general score per minute RANK:10016 TOP:4% OUT OF:294774

bf3
31/3/2012 4:58:

Headshot distance RANK:493* TOP:0%
Revives per assault minute RANK: 6019 TOP: 3%
Headshots / kill percentage RANK:25947 TOP:13%
MVP ribbons RANK:18824 TOP:11%

*= 6 if we not count the EOD BOT headshots

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Monday, January 30th 2017, 10:19am

what exactly do you do in that position? and what are yor gains from it? (i assume it's also considered a job? )

Not really a job, it's basically the person in charge of a shooting competition or part of it, the guy running after with the timer monitoring safety etc. But having this title/training allows me and the club to host better (and cheaper, as we don't have to hire outside RO's) competitions and shoot even more :> There's nowhere near enough RO's available so people are pretty much begging you to come to competitions :> Not a fan of getting up early or traveling very far though, but it's a good education to have either way.. Just had to study 5x75 pages of rules that I need to know instantly, vomiting rules at the end... ;o

3 preliminary tests and then 3 closed book tests each day over the weekend (8 hours each day), then one more test at home 2 hours long in the evening on Saturday. Spent the Sunday evening just sitting and staring into a wall :|

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