Welcome to symthic forums! We would love if you'd register!
You don't have to be expert in bit baking, everyone is more than welcome to join our community.

You are not logged in.

Hey! If this is your first visit on symthic.com, also check out our weapon damage charts.
Currently we have charts for Battlefield 3, Call of Duty: Black Ops 2, Medal of Honor: Warfighter and Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3

ViperFTW

Suidae cathexis

(2,737)

Posts: 9,736

Date of registration
: Jul 1st 2012

Platform: PC

Location: Newcastle upon Tyne, United Kingdom

Battlelog:

Reputation modifier: 20

  • Send private message

1,361

Wednesday, October 26th 2016, 3:32pm


Stanne is still my favorite death metal vocalist. I think his growls are the most interesting of anyone I listen to.


Yeah, his style is certainly unique.
I think my favourite has to be Spiros from Septicflesh (low and guttural), but between Mikael's growl and the musical stylings, there's a power to DT that I don't really think I've seen anywhere else! And his clean singing voice is incredible!!! :)

Everybody's Favourite Worthless Support and LMG Fan! :thumbsup:



Song currently stuck in my head is: Red Cold River by Breaking Benjamin!

Posts: 1,535

Date of registration
: Sep 7th 2016

Platform: PC

Location: Toronto

Battlelog:

Reputation modifier: 5

  • Send private message

1,362

Saturday, October 29th 2016, 9:33pm

This particular remix had been my ringtone for the longest time. There is no better song to get one exited.


Zer0Cod3x

Can't get a title

(1,327)

Posts: 1,531

Date of registration
: Dec 23rd 2013

Platform: Xbox One

Location: The Land of Multitudinous Kangaroos

Reputation modifier: 13

  • Send private message

1,363

Sunday, October 30th 2016, 6:39am



All three movements of the Samuel Barber Violin Concerto. Absolutely amazing. I'm very much looking forward to playing this in about a year's time or so (whenever I complete my AMusA and move onto LMusA).

That being said, that third movement tho... holy crap.



Playing Barber's Adagio for Strings in my string orchestra currently. It's a beautiful piece of music.
something something Model 8 bestgun


How to ice an A-91

Next, wanna try adding a guy that you KNOW is bad, and just testing to see that? Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

PP-2000 added. Y'know, it's not that bad....

Yes, it comes in last so far, but that is mostly because I'm making it shoot at 100m ADS - Not Moving as one of the criteria. Even then, between 50-100m Not Moving, when you include Useability, it is only 1.37% worse than the MTAR-21. Within 50m then it even beats the A-91.

Have a look, vs. the A-91 Carbine:




Using it with Muzzle Brake and Compensator is a wash in terms of overall performance. Comp is SLIGHTLY more accurate, while MB is SLIGHTLY more easy to use. Their overall scores are basically tied, with MB just ahead. I guess either can be recommended.

But... You can't be counting for the fact that it takes 9 bullets to kill at "long" range... Don't you dare tell me my A-91 is worse than a 9 BTK 650 RPM mediocre PDW.

Also. Just go heavy barrel. The recoil is low enough.

Well, technically...

Comparing a PP2K with HB and an A-91 with comp and stubby (as you suggested in an earlier post), at 50m not moving, the A-91 is only better by 4 damage per hitrate. While at 75m and 100m, surprisingly the PP2K does better than the A-91 (I'm pretty damn surprised as well).

And 10m and 50m moving the PP2K also does more damage per hitrate than the A-91. At 25m the A-91 is only better by about half a bullet's damage as well.

In addition, the PP2K has a much larger mag size and substantially less recoil. And it looks hella awesome. So comparing the A-91 to a PDW is of some worth after all, as the PP2K is better (technically, not practically) than the A-91.

Mind blown.

I... I...

*cries in a corner*

Zer0Cod3x explained it very well. If you look at the raw numbers right here on Symthic Comparison, you can see how that happened:

A-91 vs PP-2000 | BF4 Weapon Comparison | Symthic

A-91's "23%" RPM advantage only afforded it 1 extra round.

Reload times are wash.

Velocities are wash.

V-Recoil are wash (and this is HBar on PP2k vs. A-91 without).

Hipfire and ADS - Moving are better on the PP2k, but it's a PDW and not the surprising part.

The surprising part is that, as equipped (and we see above that PP2k HBar has almost same V-Recoil as A-91 without HBar so why not?), the PDW performs better at 50 - 100m than a bloody Carbine. Why?

H-Recoil Spread, 0.525 vs. 0.45, advantage PP2k.

SIPS, 42% better on the PP2k.

And here is the most important part. ADS - Not Moving Spread, 0.35 vs. 0.2, 43% improvement.

Without HBar then of course the PP2k loses, which is why when I add all the attachments together for an Overall Ranking, it would slot below the A-91. Run HBar on it, though, then... I'm sorry

@Veritable
@Zer0Cod3x
I... I...
But...
Wha...
I AM HAVING AN EXISTENTIAL CRISIS IN SCHOOL BECAUSE OF YOU TWO.

FUCK YOU NERDS AND YOUR FANCY NUMBERS

SEXY RUSSIAN BULLPUPS FTW.

In all seriousness, thank you both so much for giving me the numbers. I still don't want to accept them. You have led the horse to water. I still need to drink.


Posts: 1,535

Date of registration
: Sep 7th 2016

Platform: PC

Location: Toronto

Battlelog:

Reputation modifier: 5

  • Send private message

1,364

Sunday, October 30th 2016, 11:35am

I just finished listening to the entirety of both. That first song was only okay for me, and I did not know what emotion I was suppose to feel throughout. The second song was pretty nice, though it sounds really familiar. Apparently it has been used in a multitude of popular media.

This song below is probably my favourite symphony.


Zer0Cod3x

Can't get a title

(1,327)

Posts: 1,531

Date of registration
: Dec 23rd 2013

Platform: Xbox One

Location: The Land of Multitudinous Kangaroos

Reputation modifier: 13

  • Send private message

1,365

Sunday, October 30th 2016, 12:52pm

Dvorak New World Symphony? Yeah, that's a great symphony. I like the first movement the most.

That first song was only okay for me, and I did not know what emotion I was suppose to feel throughout.

A lot of music doesn't really have a specific emotion attached to it. It's all subjective. Personally, I think of it as like it takes you on a heroic journey of sorts, through a lot of different emotions.

I especially love the ending of the A section and bridge of the B section in the first movement, and the orchestral opening to the second movement. The third movement... what the hell. I hope I don't have to play that :D


Once you get used to the major 7th (as opposed to the "normal" minor 7th chords you hear all the time) and quartal (i.e. like triads, but at intervals of four instead of three) chords, it becomes a really nice piece to listen to.

The second song was pretty nice, though it sounds really familiar. Apparently it has been used in a multitude of popular media.

Apparently so, but I'd actually never heard of it until I started playing it.


Sorry for the music knowledge splurge :D
something something Model 8 bestgun


How to ice an A-91

Next, wanna try adding a guy that you KNOW is bad, and just testing to see that? Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

PP-2000 added. Y'know, it's not that bad....

Yes, it comes in last so far, but that is mostly because I'm making it shoot at 100m ADS - Not Moving as one of the criteria. Even then, between 50-100m Not Moving, when you include Useability, it is only 1.37% worse than the MTAR-21. Within 50m then it even beats the A-91.

Have a look, vs. the A-91 Carbine:




Using it with Muzzle Brake and Compensator is a wash in terms of overall performance. Comp is SLIGHTLY more accurate, while MB is SLIGHTLY more easy to use. Their overall scores are basically tied, with MB just ahead. I guess either can be recommended.

But... You can't be counting for the fact that it takes 9 bullets to kill at "long" range... Don't you dare tell me my A-91 is worse than a 9 BTK 650 RPM mediocre PDW.

Also. Just go heavy barrel. The recoil is low enough.

Well, technically...

Comparing a PP2K with HB and an A-91 with comp and stubby (as you suggested in an earlier post), at 50m not moving, the A-91 is only better by 4 damage per hitrate. While at 75m and 100m, surprisingly the PP2K does better than the A-91 (I'm pretty damn surprised as well).

And 10m and 50m moving the PP2K also does more damage per hitrate than the A-91. At 25m the A-91 is only better by about half a bullet's damage as well.

In addition, the PP2K has a much larger mag size and substantially less recoil. And it looks hella awesome. So comparing the A-91 to a PDW is of some worth after all, as the PP2K is better (technically, not practically) than the A-91.

Mind blown.

I... I...

*cries in a corner*

Zer0Cod3x explained it very well. If you look at the raw numbers right here on Symthic Comparison, you can see how that happened:

A-91 vs PP-2000 | BF4 Weapon Comparison | Symthic

A-91's "23%" RPM advantage only afforded it 1 extra round.

Reload times are wash.

Velocities are wash.

V-Recoil are wash (and this is HBar on PP2k vs. A-91 without).

Hipfire and ADS - Moving are better on the PP2k, but it's a PDW and not the surprising part.

The surprising part is that, as equipped (and we see above that PP2k HBar has almost same V-Recoil as A-91 without HBar so why not?), the PDW performs better at 50 - 100m than a bloody Carbine. Why?

H-Recoil Spread, 0.525 vs. 0.45, advantage PP2k.

SIPS, 42% better on the PP2k.

And here is the most important part. ADS - Not Moving Spread, 0.35 vs. 0.2, 43% improvement.

Without HBar then of course the PP2k loses, which is why when I add all the attachments together for an Overall Ranking, it would slot below the A-91. Run HBar on it, though, then... I'm sorry

@Veritable
@Zer0Cod3x
I... I...
But...
Wha...
I AM HAVING AN EXISTENTIAL CRISIS IN SCHOOL BECAUSE OF YOU TWO.

FUCK YOU NERDS AND YOUR FANCY NUMBERS

SEXY RUSSIAN BULLPUPS FTW.

In all seriousness, thank you both so much for giving me the numbers. I still don't want to accept them. You have led the horse to water. I still need to drink.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Zer0Cod3x" (Oct 30th 2016, 1:09pm)


Posts: 1,535

Date of registration
: Sep 7th 2016

Platform: PC

Location: Toronto

Battlelog:

Reputation modifier: 5

  • Send private message

1,366

Sunday, October 30th 2016, 10:33pm

Any more recommendations? I find classical songs work well for being listened to in the background.

Here is one of my favourite songs from a Japanese composer. I'm not sure how to describe its genre properly.


Zer0Cod3x

Can't get a title

(1,327)

Posts: 1,531

Date of registration
: Dec 23rd 2013

Platform: Xbox One

Location: The Land of Multitudinous Kangaroos

Reputation modifier: 13

  • Send private message

1,367

Monday, October 31st 2016, 9:10am

classical songs

:cursing:

They aren't classical! Mozart is classical. Beethoven is (somewhat) classical. Barber is not classical. Dvorak is not classical. They're also not songs.



Anyway, there's lots of good common practice and orchestral 20th century music out there. I tend to prefer Romantic and some 20th Century styles, such as Impressionism and Jazz, over Baroque and Classical. If you want some of my personal favourites, in no particular order:

-Gershwin "Rhapsody in Blue"
-Bruch "Violin Concerto in G minor"
-Debussy "Prelude a l'Apres-midi d'un Faune"
-Berlioz "Symphonie Fantastique"
-Saint-Saens "Danse Macabre"
-Vaughan Williams "Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis"
-Mendelssohn "Violin Concerto in E minor"
-Smetana "Moldau"
-Ravel "Bolero"
-Paganini "Cantabile"

I could probably keep going on, but that's probably enough.

If you want Baroque or Classical, I could give you a few. These are all Romantic/20th Century.

Here is one of my favourite songs from a Japanese composer. I'm not sure how to describe its genre properly.

It sounds like some movie or film music.
something something Model 8 bestgun


How to ice an A-91

Next, wanna try adding a guy that you KNOW is bad, and just testing to see that? Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

PP-2000 added. Y'know, it's not that bad....

Yes, it comes in last so far, but that is mostly because I'm making it shoot at 100m ADS - Not Moving as one of the criteria. Even then, between 50-100m Not Moving, when you include Useability, it is only 1.37% worse than the MTAR-21. Within 50m then it even beats the A-91.

Have a look, vs. the A-91 Carbine:




Using it with Muzzle Brake and Compensator is a wash in terms of overall performance. Comp is SLIGHTLY more accurate, while MB is SLIGHTLY more easy to use. Their overall scores are basically tied, with MB just ahead. I guess either can be recommended.

But... You can't be counting for the fact that it takes 9 bullets to kill at "long" range... Don't you dare tell me my A-91 is worse than a 9 BTK 650 RPM mediocre PDW.

Also. Just go heavy barrel. The recoil is low enough.

Well, technically...

Comparing a PP2K with HB and an A-91 with comp and stubby (as you suggested in an earlier post), at 50m not moving, the A-91 is only better by 4 damage per hitrate. While at 75m and 100m, surprisingly the PP2K does better than the A-91 (I'm pretty damn surprised as well).

And 10m and 50m moving the PP2K also does more damage per hitrate than the A-91. At 25m the A-91 is only better by about half a bullet's damage as well.

In addition, the PP2K has a much larger mag size and substantially less recoil. And it looks hella awesome. So comparing the A-91 to a PDW is of some worth after all, as the PP2K is better (technically, not practically) than the A-91.

Mind blown.

I... I...

*cries in a corner*

Zer0Cod3x explained it very well. If you look at the raw numbers right here on Symthic Comparison, you can see how that happened:

A-91 vs PP-2000 | BF4 Weapon Comparison | Symthic

A-91's "23%" RPM advantage only afforded it 1 extra round.

Reload times are wash.

Velocities are wash.

V-Recoil are wash (and this is HBar on PP2k vs. A-91 without).

Hipfire and ADS - Moving are better on the PP2k, but it's a PDW and not the surprising part.

The surprising part is that, as equipped (and we see above that PP2k HBar has almost same V-Recoil as A-91 without HBar so why not?), the PDW performs better at 50 - 100m than a bloody Carbine. Why?

H-Recoil Spread, 0.525 vs. 0.45, advantage PP2k.

SIPS, 42% better on the PP2k.

And here is the most important part. ADS - Not Moving Spread, 0.35 vs. 0.2, 43% improvement.

Without HBar then of course the PP2k loses, which is why when I add all the attachments together for an Overall Ranking, it would slot below the A-91. Run HBar on it, though, then... I'm sorry

@Veritable
@Zer0Cod3x
I... I...
But...
Wha...
I AM HAVING AN EXISTENTIAL CRISIS IN SCHOOL BECAUSE OF YOU TWO.

FUCK YOU NERDS AND YOUR FANCY NUMBERS

SEXY RUSSIAN BULLPUPS FTW.

In all seriousness, thank you both so much for giving me the numbers. I still don't want to accept them. You have led the horse to water. I still need to drink.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Zer0Cod3x" (Nov 1st 2016, 8:53am)


Posts: 1,535

Date of registration
: Sep 7th 2016

Platform: PC

Location: Toronto

Battlelog:

Reputation modifier: 5

  • Send private message

1,368

Tuesday, November 1st 2016, 3:55am

They aren't classical! ... They're also not songs.

Haha. Sorry for offending you then in that case.

I will listen to that selection in the background later. Thanks for your recommendations!

Posts: 7,809

Date of registration
: Feb 25th 2012

Platform: PC

Location: italy

Battlelog:

Reputation modifier: 19

  • Send private message

1,369

Tuesday, November 1st 2016, 4:23am

and I did not know what emotion I was suppose to feel throughout

i blame it on my medical condition that i have no idea what you're talking about, when i listen to a song i just listen, relax/vent stress and enjoy it for its technicalities and soothing tones, no emotions involved, a song can't make me happy, angry, jelous or whatever the heck normal people feel when listening to music(unless it is so bad that i want to strangle whoever made it)


i don't like orchestral music anyway... classical music it's fine to me and i don't dislike the orchestra itelf as in some cases i can like how it get used(like for example in concerto grosso by new trolls) buut in general of the classic stuff i prefer piano and violin music, such as chopin or paganini, and yet listen to mu that rarely, although recently i listened again to toccata e fuga, nice piece, although a bit repetitive iirc.
other than that i don't have much to add... most of the instrumental music i listen is videogames osts, like nier, fragile dreams, fire emblem awakening, kingdom hearts, ar tonelico or anime like yuki yuna wa yuusha de aru(same composer as of nier), baccano, darker than black,showa genroku rakugo shinjuu and so on.
"I'm just a loot whore."


stuff mostly unrelated to BF4 that interests nobody



bf4
on 13/05/2016
23rd M320FB user on pc(13/05/16)
rush mode score RANK:2794 TOP:2% OUT OF:215398
obliteration mode scoreRANK:994 TOP:1% OUT OF:159466
handgun medals RANK:2236 TOP:2% OUT OF:143874
longest headshot RANK:9512 TOP:4% OUT OF:257589
recon score RANK:10871 TOP:4% OUT OF:274899
general score per minute RANK:10016 TOP:4% OUT OF:294774

bf3
31/3/2012 4:58:

Headshot distance RANK:493* TOP:0%
Revives per assault minute RANK: 6019 TOP: 3%
Headshots / kill percentage RANK:25947 TOP:13%
MVP ribbons RANK:18824 TOP:11%

*= 6 if we not count the EOD BOT headshots

@kataklism

ARGUMENT DESTROYED 100

ENEMY KILLED [REASON] JSLICE20 100


WRITING SPREE STOPPED 500

link to full-size old avatar:
http://i.imgur.com/4X0321O.gif




Posts: 1,535

Date of registration
: Sep 7th 2016

Platform: PC

Location: Toronto

Battlelog:

Reputation modifier: 5

  • Send private message

1,370

Tuesday, November 1st 2016, 6:28am

Maybe this is just for me, but I often find that many songs create a mood which I experience as I listen to them. It can be as simple as the sombre tone of a song making me think of sad things, with lyrics contributing a lot as well of course. Think of it as your mind going with the flow, where the music is at the forefront of your thoughts as you listen to it.

May I ask what your medical condition is by the way? You have mentioned it a few times before.



other than that i don't have much to add... most of the instrumental music i listen is videogames osts, like nier, fragile dreams, fire emblem awakening, kingdom hearts, ar tonelico or anime like yuki yuna wa yuusha de aru(same composer as of nier), baccano, darker than black,showa genroku rakugo shinjuu and so on.

I have not played "NieR", but I agree that it does have a great soundtrack. This particular song is my favourite.