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Sunday, December 25th 2016, 4:15am

like komorebi?


Had to look that one up, but yes, that's a great example. It means "the light that filters through the trees".

We all understand the concept, but there's no word for that in English, we'd have to explain/describe it.
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Sunday, December 25th 2016, 4:45am

i think i know one for italian too that is very similar, though it might just be my ignorance of the english language here: rugiada
it's a bit complex to explain, but basically it's the reaction rainwater has with leaves, giving off that specific smell and brine when it rains.


edit: actually, that's just plain dew, apparently, goes to show mypoor memory.
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Sunday, December 25th 2016, 11:25am

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Or... When in doubt why things have a different name, just look north

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A lot of different words are formed from whichever local word came first, like Kangaroo coming from one small aborigine tribe, then when they asked the next tribe they had no clue wtf they were talking about...

New words are usually transformed into words more similar to the native language, otherwise it becomes unnatural to pronounce them in a sentence. Gothenburg / Göteborg. Shinobi is pretty difficult for Americans to pronounce and sounds pretty lame when they do, so they picked the other word for it, Ninja.

Sometimes an old word stays in use when another country changes theirs, like Germany/Deutschland. Germania was the Roman word for the area, that name stuck for the area while the people itself changed and eventually (1870?) actually formed a country.

I think it's a pretty good thing the original name isn't used globally... Let''s just take a couple of Swedish inventions.

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Sunday, December 25th 2016, 12:28pm

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Another good example is words that are simply single words in other languages, but cannot be translated into other languages as a comparative single word doesn't exist. For example: "Backpfeifengesicht" translates to, in English, "A face that cries out for a fist" or "A person who's face is just begging to be punched" :D


Japanese has a lot of these as well, words that can only be translated through meaning because English has no direct equivalents.


Ah, awesome! I'd imagine they have a lot of compound words like that, someone in the multi-thousand-year history of Japan must have sat & looked at their symbols & characters and gone "If this is really gonna take off we'll need to streamline" :D

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Sunday, December 25th 2016, 1:17pm

@Watcher-45

Another good example is words that are simply single words in other languages, but cannot be translated into other languages as a comparative single word doesn't exist. For example: "Backpfeifengesicht" translates to, in English, "A face that cries out for a fist" or "A person who's face is just begging to be punched" :D


Japanese has a lot of these as well, words that can only be translated through meaning because English has no direct equivalents.


Ah, awesome! I'd imagine they have a lot of compound words like that, someone in the multi-thousand-year history of Japan must have sat & looked at their symbols & characters and gone "If this is really gonna take off we'll need to streamline" :D

Somehow English is actually a pretty shitty language to express things in, a lot of these expressions are just missing from English ;o

At least it has funny insults though, but a bit lackluster on cursing

Strykful - Someone that's so ugly they looks like they've been beaten to a pulp, or really should be

Kinda similar to butt-ugly, except that a lot of butts aren't really ugly :>

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Sunday, December 25th 2016, 3:51pm

Somehow English is actually a pretty shitty language to express things in, a lot of these expressions are just missing from English ;o

At least it has funny insults though, but a bit lackluster on cursing


Yeah I know what you mean. Probably why a lot of the globally famous/timeless poems, operas, and the like are from the likes of France, Italy, etc.

We have one fancy little gimmick for cursing though: We can add curse words into other words and it's technically still correct. Abso-fucking-lutely or in-fucking-credible :D

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Monday, December 26th 2016, 8:42am

The vast majority of English words are derived from either Latin or Classical Greek. So English tends to use whatever the Latin or Greek names were for that same noun/verb.

Besides, languages weren't designed to be easy to learn or study (hi English!), they're designed to allow people to effectively communicate between each other. What you might consider to be weird or inconvenient in a foreign language is totally normal in another; those people don't really care what you think.


That being said, I'm glad I'm a native English speaker, because learning it would probably be the worst experience of my life ?(

Probably why a lot of the globally famous/timeless poems, operas, and the like are from the likes of France, Italy, etc.

There are plenty of famous poems and poets in English.

In terms of opera, up until rather recently, basically any language other than Italian was considered "unworthy" of the art form. Most people also don't listen to contemporary opera, which is why the majority of opera in English goes unnoticed.
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Next, wanna try adding a guy that you KNOW is bad, and just testing to see that? Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

PP-2000 added. Y'know, it's not that bad....

Yes, it comes in last so far, but that is mostly because I'm making it shoot at 100m ADS - Not Moving as one of the criteria. Even then, between 50-100m Not Moving, when you include Useability, it is only 1.37% worse than the MTAR-21. Within 50m then it even beats the A-91.

Have a look, vs. the A-91 Carbine:




Using it with Muzzle Brake and Compensator is a wash in terms of overall performance. Comp is SLIGHTLY more accurate, while MB is SLIGHTLY more easy to use. Their overall scores are basically tied, with MB just ahead. I guess either can be recommended.

But... You can't be counting for the fact that it takes 9 bullets to kill at "long" range... Don't you dare tell me my A-91 is worse than a 9 BTK 650 RPM mediocre PDW.

Also. Just go heavy barrel. The recoil is low enough.

Well, technically...

Comparing a PP2K with HB and an A-91 with comp and stubby (as you suggested in an earlier post), at 50m not moving, the A-91 is only better by 4 damage per hitrate. While at 75m and 100m, surprisingly the PP2K does better than the A-91 (I'm pretty damn surprised as well).

And 10m and 50m moving the PP2K also does more damage per hitrate than the A-91. At 25m the A-91 is only better by about half a bullet's damage as well.

In addition, the PP2K has a much larger mag size and substantially less recoil. And it looks hella awesome. So comparing the A-91 to a PDW is of some worth after all, as the PP2K is better (technically, not practically) than the A-91.

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Zer0Cod3x explained it very well. If you look at the raw numbers right here on Symthic Comparison, you can see how that happened:

A-91 vs PP-2000 | BF4 Weapon Comparison | Symthic

A-91's "23%" RPM advantage only afforded it 1 extra round.

Reload times are wash.

Velocities are wash.

V-Recoil are wash (and this is HBar on PP2k vs. A-91 without).

Hipfire and ADS - Moving are better on the PP2k, but it's a PDW and not the surprising part.

The surprising part is that, as equipped (and we see above that PP2k HBar has almost same V-Recoil as A-91 without HBar so why not?), the PDW performs better at 50 - 100m than a bloody Carbine. Why?

H-Recoil Spread, 0.525 vs. 0.45, advantage PP2k.

SIPS, 42% better on the PP2k.

And here is the most important part. ADS - Not Moving Spread, 0.35 vs. 0.2, 43% improvement.

Without HBar then of course the PP2k loses, which is why when I add all the attachments together for an Overall Ranking, it would slot below the A-91. Run HBar on it, though, then... I'm sorry

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Wednesday, December 28th 2016, 11:27am

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At least in the case of Hjartstimulator you could have just called it a Heart-Stimulator...


Ugh, I always feel like "Pacemaker" is a brand, not the actual device. Much like how we often use "Band-Aids" and "Kleenex" to refer to all adhesive bandages and tissues...
Might be because I used to run a lathe with the name "American Pacemaker" emblazoned on the drive mechanism.
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Wednesday, December 28th 2016, 12:13pm

Since we are posting those "meme" pictures of silly words, here's my favorite Finnish one:

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(Granted, the other languages might be from similar family so the comparison is silly. Nevertheless that made me chuckle)
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Wednesday, December 28th 2016, 3:26pm

Most languages stem from a certain base language, which is Latin for the most part of western europe, so there is the same background, with local flavours of indo-germanic languages. This is where most differences come from. Instead of the differences one should look at the similarities and one will see how close many languages really are. The pineapple, dragon and penguin examples are just funny oddities.

Plus, of course, language is a very dynamic thing and can change drastically within even a decade. In theory certain words or expressions can change rapidly and via only a small amount of regular users. This is particularly true for English which is an incredibly simple language to learn and speak, so we see a lot of influences of the English language here.
German is an incredibly detailed and "logical" language, when it comes to words. We describe things as they are used, so we put together a couple of nouns and create a new, longer word. Sometimes you will see that in other languages, like the Kindergarden. I have no idea how that happened but apparently the word Rucksack (backpack) is used in a japanese form as ryuksak or so, and I have no idea how that happened, but this must stem from a small group of users and has taken over.

Usually this happens because the own expression does not exist or has some kind of flaw. Some stuff is so totally obscure, like the light expression mentioned earlier, that a translation would just not be enough, so you just the foreign word, especially if it sounds nice.

In short, language changes rapidly all the time and watching it evolve can be very exciting.

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