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Sheepnub

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Saturday, August 22nd 2015, 8:04pm

@Sheepnub
Was thinking about how some weapons in certain situation need certain sets of attachments
This section would be useful to people that can't (or don't want) to check stats for each attachments combinations, or don't know how to interpret them.

Some seems straightforward, like F2000 close quarter usage = stubby + comp (or so I think it is), but for a bit of mid range usage, should I use HB+AFG, or stubby, or nake ? That kind of things ^^
Long range Famas in BF3 was done using HB+Bipod, and IIRC it was in the weapon section. Not many used it that way, but it was nice to see it there.

Hmmkay

While an interesting concept, it's hard to get this thing right. This mostly due to this damn thing called 'opinions' :(

Take the f2k. While there are some attachment combinations that would be blatantly foolish to use, there are multiple decent ones.

Comp-Angled: The bur-bur-bur-bursttttting player.
Comp-stubby: Good for mid-range engagements, while reducing the max spread and increase in spreadincreasethe compensator gives you.
HBAR-Stubby: Good for mid'ish range engagements, while reducing max spread in general. To hit max spread (1,5) normally it would require 12 bullets. With this setup your spread maxes out at 1,245. Meaning after 9 bullets fired..you may as well keep firing. The relatively low vertical recoil of the f2k makes this work quite well.
Suppressor-stubby: Same thing as HB-stubby, but with a reduction in range. Same reduction in max spread, but you gain stealth. Albeit you shouldn't hipfire as much anymore.
Supp-ergo: Where are my killstreaks?
..etcetc

Almost every setup possible has a viable use. If a player, however, doesn't know exactly what an attachment grants him/her, chances are he/she will be going to make sub-optimal use of their weapon. Perhaps, or most likely, even using it in an entirely wrong fashion.

I like the idea..but how would we do this? To me, a simple instruction about the effect of each attachment (with maybe a few examples. i.e. comparison of HB on AR vs Carbine etc)
With the near obscene amount of multipliers only the real 'know-it-alls' (yes, I'm referring to us here) know 'exactly' how things work. Such a write up should be made using the most basic information, and should only contain absolute truths. For as far as practical use of equipment goes.
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Thanks for the heads up!
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Hardline is a fun and sometimes silly Cops and Robbers sorta thing and I think that's great. Or it would be if it didn't suck.

>littlebird passanger, semi-auto frag rounds
>gunship OP

Meanwhile at DICE-headquarters during BF4's release:

I'm pretty sure there's a massive post-it on every desk "DON'T FUCKING TOUCH ANYTHING THAT IS ACTUALLY DOING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOING"

UCAV:
"Hey guys remember how stupid prenerf mav was?"

"Lets add c4 to it."

The World Champion went to China once.

They called me a Gweilo.

So I kicked a big fucking hole in their wall and let all the Mongolians in.

just thought I'd share.


The thought of Assaults running out of ACE 23 rounds mid firefight, Engineers facing the rear of an unaware MBT with no rockets left, Recons unable to...Whatever the fuck they do. These are the things that keep me up at night ;(


About hunturk:
I don't know what's funnier, the video itself of the fact that an unlisted video has more views than most of your normal videos :P

...


You just live to hit people upside the noggin with a Math Bomb, don't you?

[context] Maybe it's the UK's overly aggressive porn filter at work. After all, it does have the word "monkey" in it and monkeys have been known to have sex so...


Previously, at DICE HQ:
"Ok guys, the password is "epic dream worlds"; everyone take a letter and do your best to turn it into into something random that we can put into a picture!"


I assume a functional game (BF4) also.

Aww!
*pinches cheeks*
So cute!


But but but

He's a Youtuber ;(

There's no way he doesn't know what he's talking about

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MrT3a

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Saturday, August 22nd 2015, 8:28pm

@Sheepnub
That list is kind of what I had in mind ^^ in a more serious tone ^^

While this list would be true on F2K, it would differ on CZ, and that's a kind of thing we could provide.
It could be a single spreadsheet with weapons as columns and playstyles as lines, attachments combinations in cells.
Or individual weapon topic, listing pros and cons of said weapon, statistically optimum combination, secondary suggestions, and per playstyle alternative suggestions, like the list you just did.
Or both of them : a subsection with Main thread = spreadsheet and individual weapons threads after that.
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Saturday, August 22nd 2015, 8:48pm

Or individual weapon topic, listing pros and cons of said weapon,

i don't think you could do that, do you remember how many guns are in bf4? we have the weapon discussion section for that.
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Saturday, August 22nd 2015, 9:55pm

Just wanted to mention Sym will be available to push this update on Monday at earliest.
Links to users' thread list who have made analytical/statistical/mathematical/cool posts on Symthic:
  • 3VerstsNorth - Analysis of game mechanics in BF4 (tickrates, effects of tickrate, etc)
  • leptis - Analysis of shotguns, recoil, recoil control and air drag.
  • Veritable - Scoring of BF4/BF1 firearms in terms of usability, firing and other mechanics.
  • Miffyli - Random statistical analysis of BF4 battlereports/players and kill-distances. (list is cluttered with other threads).
Sorry if your name wasn't on the list, I honestly can't recall all names : ( . Nudge me if you want to be included

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Monday, August 24th 2015, 3:37pm

Bump update. Descriptions are now live on site.
Links to users' thread list who have made analytical/statistical/mathematical/cool posts on Symthic:
  • 3VerstsNorth - Analysis of game mechanics in BF4 (tickrates, effects of tickrate, etc)
  • leptis - Analysis of shotguns, recoil, recoil control and air drag.
  • Veritable - Scoring of BF4/BF1 firearms in terms of usability, firing and other mechanics.
  • Miffyli - Random statistical analysis of BF4 battlereports/players and kill-distances. (list is cluttered with other threads).
Sorry if your name wasn't on the list, I honestly can't recall all names : ( . Nudge me if you want to be included

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Monday, August 24th 2015, 5:30pm

sweet, but i doubt i'll be able to read them all, there's just too many of them...

yet the gol magnum still uses the sv98 icon.
"I'm just a loot whore."


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bf4
on 13/05/2016
23rd M320FB user on pc(13/05/16)
rush mode score RANK:2794 TOP:2% OUT OF:215398
obliteration mode scoreRANK:994 TOP:1% OUT OF:159466
handgun medals RANK:2236 TOP:2% OUT OF:143874
longest headshot RANK:9512 TOP:4% OUT OF:257589
recon score RANK:10871 TOP:4% OUT OF:274899
general score per minute RANK:10016 TOP:4% OUT OF:294774

bf3
31/3/2012 4:58:

Headshot distance RANK:493* TOP:0%
Revives per assault minute RANK: 6019 TOP: 3%
Headshots / kill percentage RANK:25947 TOP:13%
MVP ribbons RANK:18824 TOP:11%

*= 6 if we not count the EOD BOT headshots

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Monday, August 24th 2015, 6:50pm

sweet, but i doubt i'll be able to read them all, there's just too many of them...

yet the gol magnum still uses the sv98 icon.

Ugh... Thanks to the caching thing on actual Symthic server the picture never changed, even tho the right one was uploaded months ago. Not sure why I didn't fix this before.
Going to look into it, altho atm even Sym is confused by this.
Links to users' thread list who have made analytical/statistical/mathematical/cool posts on Symthic:
  • 3VerstsNorth - Analysis of game mechanics in BF4 (tickrates, effects of tickrate, etc)
  • leptis - Analysis of shotguns, recoil, recoil control and air drag.
  • Veritable - Scoring of BF4/BF1 firearms in terms of usability, firing and other mechanics.
  • Miffyli - Random statistical analysis of BF4 battlereports/players and kill-distances. (list is cluttered with other threads).
Sorry if your name wasn't on the list, I honestly can't recall all names : ( . Nudge me if you want to be included

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Monday, August 24th 2015, 9:38pm

I'd remove or clarify "Features a three-round burst mode that can operate at up to 1,000rpm" in AK-12 description. It might confuse some people.

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Monday, August 24th 2015, 9:41pm

I'd remove or clarify "Features a three-round burst mode that can operate at up to 1,000rpm" in AK-12 description. It might confuse some people.

perhaps add an "in real life"?
"I'm just a loot whore."


stuff mostly unrelated to BF4 that interests nobody



bf4
on 13/05/2016
23rd M320FB user on pc(13/05/16)
rush mode score RANK:2794 TOP:2% OUT OF:215398
obliteration mode scoreRANK:994 TOP:1% OUT OF:159466
handgun medals RANK:2236 TOP:2% OUT OF:143874
longest headshot RANK:9512 TOP:4% OUT OF:257589
recon score RANK:10871 TOP:4% OUT OF:274899
general score per minute RANK:10016 TOP:4% OUT OF:294774

bf3
31/3/2012 4:58:

Headshot distance RANK:493* TOP:0%
Revives per assault minute RANK: 6019 TOP: 3%
Headshots / kill percentage RANK:25947 TOP:13%
MVP ribbons RANK:18824 TOP:11%

*= 6 if we not count the EOD BOT headshots

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ENEMY KILLED [REASON] JSLICE20 100


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Tuesday, August 25th 2015, 12:00am

Quoted

I'd remove or clarify "Features a three-round burst mode that can operate at up to 1,000rpm" in AK-12 description. It might confuse some people.

perhaps add an "in real life"?

"The real version has a three round burst mode that operates up to 1,000 RPM, however the in-game burst mode reaches a mere 750 RPM to prevent balance issues."

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I didn't know vertigo could disrupt one's sense of size.