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Monday, May 23rd 2016, 2:21am

BF4: shotgun barrel attachments?

Great wizards of Symthic, could we please have the basic numerical data about BF4 Shotgun barrels added in the attachment section?
Considering that the attachment section has nice numerical info about the Heavy Barrel and the Silencer, some info about these would be awesome:

Modified Choke
Full Choke
Duckbill
Compensator and Muzzle Break (for shotguns, if different from regular)

I do not know does the spread-increase penalty from the Compensator & the Muzzle Break apply to shotguns, or do they fire too slow to be affected (due to spread decrease between shots, similar to how big snipers work with MBreak)?
Either way please consider adding a simple tab with precise numerical info about the shotgun stuff, at least the chokes/duckbill need to be demystified :)

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Monday, May 23rd 2016, 2:52am

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Monday, May 23rd 2016, 4:03am

Thank you for replying.
I have read your link but that is not really what i had in mind.

Your link has limited info and it is honestly not that easy to understand.
Chokes supposedly (according to battlelog) have an affect on recoil that is not even mentioned there.

The current attachment section has some simple description like: HBarrel "7.5% less spread increase".
That is rather easy to understand and quick to grasp, simple summarized information.

It would be great if the chokes/duckbill info was presented in the same form as the "quick attachment data" under attachments.
Simple % decreases/increases that explain what precisely changes in a weapon in "plain simple english" :)

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Monday, May 23rd 2016, 6:16am

Thank you for replying.
I have read your link but that is not really what i had in mind.

Your link has limited info and it is honestly not that easy to understand.
Chokes supposedly (according to battlelog) have an affect on recoil that is not even mentioned there.

The current attachment section has some simple description like: HBarrel "7.5% less spread increase".
That is rather easy to understand and quick to grasp, simple summarized information.

It would be great if the chokes/duckbill info was presented in the same form as the "quick attachment data" under attachments.
Simple % decreases/increases that explain what precisely changes in a weapon in "plain simple english" :)

Modified choke:
0.875 modifier for pellet spread

1.25x moving ADS base spread


Full choke:
0.75x modifier for pellet spread

1.5x moving ADS base spread
1.2x standing hip base spread
1.5x moving hip base spread
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Monday, May 23rd 2016, 12:14pm

Thank you for replying, but if you can please explain:

Your data seems strange compared to the official description of chokes:
"Moderately tightens the shot spread for improved Accuracy, but has penalties for Stability and Hip Fire as well."
"Significantly tightens the shot spread for improved Accuracy, but has penalties for Stability and Hip Fire as well."

According to the official descriptions the chokes should have NO penalties for ADSight, while having penalties only for Recoil and Hip Fire.
The official descriptions make it sound like both Chokes are bad for Hip-Fire and Recoil, but they greatly improve AimDownSight for longer distance fights.


Your data suggests that Modified Choke actually severely harms ADSight while completely improving hip-fire?
And the Full Choke applies an even bigger penalty to ADS that is not mentioned at all?
The recoil penalty (stability) is also not present anywhere in your numbers?

Is your data truly accurate and 100% complete?
Because if you are right, then the official description is completely and utterly wrong...

This post has been edited 2 times, last edit by "Bogdanov89" (May 23rd 2016, 12:41pm)


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Monday, May 23rd 2016, 1:01pm

Why are we now answering the exact same question in two threads? :|

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Monday, May 23rd 2016, 2:09pm

Why are we now answering the exact same question in two threads? :|


I guess this thread is a suggestion to have a dedicated (yet simple) numerical description of what chokes and duckbill do?

And the other thread is about "theory" and less about what the Symthic website needs?

If you can please take a look at the OTHER thread for some theory discussion and answers :)

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Monday, May 23rd 2016, 5:33pm

I think this thread is what I would call a duplicate. Closed, we're aware that the shotgun stats are still a little bit lacking, and it has been brought to our attention previously, thank you.