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Thursday, September 10th 2015, 1:05pm

Full Choke vs Ergo Grip + Laser Sight

do the negatives of the full choke cancel each other out with the positives of the ergo grip / laser sight combo on semiauto shotguns?
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Thursday, September 10th 2015, 3:53pm

Full choke negatives:
1.5 ADS moving spread
1.2 HIP standing spread
1.5 HIP moving spread

Ergo positive:
0.5 moving spread (all stances, ADS & HIP)
Ergo negative:
0.67 spread decrease

Laser sight positive:
0.67 hip (all stances)


HIP not moving: Yes, you will end up with 0,804 the normal hipfire spread of your weapon.
HIP moving: Yes, you will end up with the 0,75x the normal HIP moving spread (as in: moving-laser-nothing-nothing vs moving-laser-ergo-full choke)
ADS moving: Yes, you will have 0,75x the normal ADS moving spread.
Spread decrease (ergo): No, this is not even touched by the choke.
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*Logs out of Symthic in preparation*

Hardline is a fun and sometimes silly Cops and Robbers sorta thing and I think that's great. Or it would be if it didn't suck.

>littlebird passanger, semi-auto frag rounds
>gunship OP

Meanwhile at DICE-headquarters during BF4's release:

I'm pretty sure there's a massive post-it on every desk "DON'T FUCKING TOUCH ANYTHING THAT IS ACTUALLY DOING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOING"

UCAV:
"Hey guys remember how stupid prenerf mav was?"

"Lets add c4 to it."

The World Champion went to China once.

They called me a Gweilo.

So I kicked a big fucking hole in their wall and let all the Mongolians in.

just thought I'd share.


The thought of Assaults running out of ACE 23 rounds mid firefight, Engineers facing the rear of an unaware MBT with no rockets left, Recons unable to...Whatever the fuck they do. These are the things that keep me up at night ;(


About hunturk:
I don't know what's funnier, the video itself of the fact that an unlisted video has more views than most of your normal videos :P

...


You just live to hit people upside the noggin with a Math Bomb, don't you?

[context] Maybe it's the UK's overly aggressive porn filter at work. After all, it does have the word "monkey" in it and monkeys have been known to have sex so...


Previously, at DICE HQ:
"Ok guys, the password is "epic dream worlds"; everyone take a letter and do your best to turn it into into something random that we can put into a picture!"


I assume a functional game (BF4) also.

Aww!
*pinches cheeks*
So cute!


But but but

He's a Youtuber ;(

There's no way he doesn't know what he's talking about

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Thursday, September 10th 2015, 4:33pm

I do not think those moving spread calculations are correct.
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Thursday, September 10th 2015, 6:30pm

I do not think those moving spread calculations are correct.

Why not? One adds +50%, the other reduces 50%. What weird calculation could be used there?:O
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Best of epic quotes :D

Spoiler Spoiler

Just realized it's 4/20 tomorrow


Thanks for the heads up!
*Logs out of Symthic in preparation*

Hardline is a fun and sometimes silly Cops and Robbers sorta thing and I think that's great. Or it would be if it didn't suck.

>littlebird passanger, semi-auto frag rounds
>gunship OP

Meanwhile at DICE-headquarters during BF4's release:

I'm pretty sure there's a massive post-it on every desk "DON'T FUCKING TOUCH ANYTHING THAT IS ACTUALLY DOING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOING"

UCAV:
"Hey guys remember how stupid prenerf mav was?"

"Lets add c4 to it."

The World Champion went to China once.

They called me a Gweilo.

So I kicked a big fucking hole in their wall and let all the Mongolians in.

just thought I'd share.


The thought of Assaults running out of ACE 23 rounds mid firefight, Engineers facing the rear of an unaware MBT with no rockets left, Recons unable to...Whatever the fuck they do. These are the things that keep me up at night ;(


About hunturk:
I don't know what's funnier, the video itself of the fact that an unlisted video has more views than most of your normal videos :P

...


You just live to hit people upside the noggin with a Math Bomb, don't you?

[context] Maybe it's the UK's overly aggressive porn filter at work. After all, it does have the word "monkey" in it and monkeys have been known to have sex so...


Previously, at DICE HQ:
"Ok guys, the password is "epic dream worlds"; everyone take a letter and do your best to turn it into into something random that we can put into a picture!"


I assume a functional game (BF4) also.

Aww!
*pinches cheeks*
So cute!


But but but

He's a Youtuber ;(

There's no way he doesn't know what he's talking about


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Thursday, September 10th 2015, 6:43pm

I do not think those moving spread calculations are correct.

Why not? One adds +50%, the other reduces 50%. What weird calculation could be used there?:O


Basic Math! 1.5*0.5=0.75 and not 1
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Thursday, September 10th 2015, 6:51pm

I do not think those moving spread calculations are correct.

Why not? One adds +50%, the other reduces 50%. What weird calculation could be used there?:O


Basic Math! 1.5*0.5=0.75 and not 1

To be brutally honest, I'm not sure whether modifiers are added or multiplied.
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Best of epic quotes :D

Spoiler Spoiler

Just realized it's 4/20 tomorrow


Thanks for the heads up!
*Logs out of Symthic in preparation*

Hardline is a fun and sometimes silly Cops and Robbers sorta thing and I think that's great. Or it would be if it didn't suck.

>littlebird passanger, semi-auto frag rounds
>gunship OP

Meanwhile at DICE-headquarters during BF4's release:

I'm pretty sure there's a massive post-it on every desk "DON'T FUCKING TOUCH ANYTHING THAT IS ACTUALLY DOING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOING"

UCAV:
"Hey guys remember how stupid prenerf mav was?"

"Lets add c4 to it."

The World Champion went to China once.

They called me a Gweilo.

So I kicked a big fucking hole in their wall and let all the Mongolians in.

just thought I'd share.


The thought of Assaults running out of ACE 23 rounds mid firefight, Engineers facing the rear of an unaware MBT with no rockets left, Recons unable to...Whatever the fuck they do. These are the things that keep me up at night ;(


About hunturk:
I don't know what's funnier, the video itself of the fact that an unlisted video has more views than most of your normal videos :P

...


You just live to hit people upside the noggin with a Math Bomb, don't you?

[context] Maybe it's the UK's overly aggressive porn filter at work. After all, it does have the word "monkey" in it and monkeys have been known to have sex so...


Previously, at DICE HQ:
"Ok guys, the password is "epic dream worlds"; everyone take a letter and do your best to turn it into into something random that we can put into a picture!"


I assume a functional game (BF4) also.

Aww!
*pinches cheeks*
So cute!


But but but

He's a Youtuber ;(

There's no way he doesn't know what he's talking about


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Thursday, September 10th 2015, 7:07pm

To be brutally honest, I'm not sure whether modifiers are added or multiplied.

Multiplied.

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Thursday, September 10th 2015, 7:09pm

To be brutally honest, I'm not sure whether modifiers are added or multiplied.


Me neither, but

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One adds +50%, the other reduces 50%


sounded like the usual problem people tend to have with percentage calculations.

Arrgh, now I remember, that you corrected my ADS_moving_penalty calculations. Percentage difficulties wont happen to a user like you. Sorry! I just read the comment and didnt watch who wrote it.
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Thursday, September 10th 2015, 7:09pm

There is a formula for moving spread.

([Moving minSpread - (Stationary minSpread * minSpread modifiers)] * moving spread modifiers) + (Stationary minSpread * minSpread modifiers)
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Passive Spotting is the future!

With this, I'll rid MGO3 of infestation. Sans bad gameplay MGO3 will be torn asunder. And then it shall be free. People will suffer, of course - a phantom pain.

Reddit and Konami will rewrite the records... And I will be demonized in human memory. But... The thirst for good gameplay that I have planted will infest MGO3. No one can stop it now. The Rebalance Mod will unleash that thirst unto the future.


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