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Sunday, August 23rd 2015, 6:45pm

Asking for DMR suggestion ^^

Asking for DMR suggestion ^^

As I can't effectively play recon with BASR (other than SRR 61 x6 scope) I'm searching a good DMR.
When playing recon I usually use Carbines, namely SG-553 and AK-5C.
Soooo, to vary pleasures, I'll need a DMR.
Carbines to short ranges, DMR+4x for mid-long ranges, and SRR-61 for long+ ranges.
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Sunday, August 23rd 2015, 6:48pm

personally, the qbu88 and m39 are my main dmrs, namely for their versatility limited only by one for mag capacity and the other for recoil, otherwise the mk11 and scar-h are good contenders.
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Sunday, August 23rd 2015, 7:43pm

Scar-h SV is one of my favorites due to the minimal recoil. Either use muzzle-angled (yes, muzzle. The only instance where i say muzzle is an efficient option), or heavy-angled if you need to reach out a bit further (i.e. sniper rifle ranges).

Due to the minimal recoil you can get away with firing at the spread-reset speed ridiculously easily.
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Sunday, August 23rd 2015, 7:49pm

If you only shoot up to ~100m, and you always pause 1/30th of a second to allow SIPS to recover before firing again, due to the way BF4 Shooting Mechanics work, the M39 EMR Naked Barrel + Naked Underbarrel kills the fastest:



By Naked Underbarrel, it means you might as well put the Bipod on there, even if you never get to use it.

HBar is not needed, because its 0.125 ADS - Not Moving spread value still can guarantee chest shots out to slightly over 100m. In all cases the HBar's SIPS buff do not help you recover SIPS faster either. Thus the HBar does not net you any improvements in Frames-to-Kill in this shooting style for all guns except for the SKS:



So there is no reason to suffer from the increased V-Recoil, unless you want to shoot at 150-200m+. In that case though you say you have the SRR-61 for that.

Pairing the HBar with Stubby, like what is recommended for most of automatic weapons, actually make the high SIPS + slow Spread Recovery guns perform worse:



Namely, the Mk11, SCAR-H SV and the RFB. Again, this is for letting SIPS recover. If you spam-fire at max-RPM, then this will be more "accurate."

If you hate V-Recoil, you can use MB + AFG:



For the M39, SVD-12, Mk11, RFB and SCAR-H SV it performs the same as HBar + Stubby, so why not?

Finally, if your playing style demand that you use Ergo, then the QBU-88 is on top and the ACE 53 SV follows behind:


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Sunday, August 23rd 2015, 7:54pm

muzzle-angled ? Wont be muzzle-ergo a better option.

For DMRs everything comes down to muzzle-ergo or HB-angled.

I ran HB-angled for a while, but as I just cant stop moving while shooting, I have to move on to muzzle-ergo.
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Sunday, August 23rd 2015, 8:06pm

For DMRs everything comes down to muzzle-ergo or HB-angled.

I have come to agree with you. For loud usage I think MB + Ergo is the best mix. MB provides enough V-Recoil reduction, while Ergo's 50% ADS - Moving spread reduction is HUGE.



HBar + AFG provides better long-range accuracy, but except for the SKS it might not be needed. It will be worse in ADS - Moving (but still slightly better than Naked + Naked) and will be better in max-RPM firing (thanks to slight SIPS buff). Its Frames-to-Kill is the exact same as HBar + Stubby, so I guess there is no reason to use Stubby unless again you want to spam-fire:



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M39 EMR, SVD-12, Mk11, RFB and SCAR-H SV perform the same in ADS - Not Moving if using either. QBU-88, SKS and ACE 53 SV will get improvements with HBar + AFG in this usage. Interesting how those 3 have lower-than-usual SIPS, but the SVD-12 is the lowest of them all and yet has no benefit there.

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Sunday, August 23rd 2015, 10:28pm

I use SCAR H SV with HB Ergo

why this is not the best option?


It has the best accuracy, and very little side to side recoil.

It is very useful for hardcore because DMR in Hardcore is 1 headshot 1 kill machine:)

So in my opinion headshot accuracy is very important for DMR user because it significantly shorter Time to Kill Ratio.

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Sunday, August 23rd 2015, 10:33pm

I use SCAR H SV with HB Ergo

why this is not the best option?


It has the best accuracy, and very little side to side recoil.

It is very useful for hardcore because DMR in Hardcore is 1 headshot 1 kill machine:)

So in my opinion headshot accuracy is very important for DMR user because it significantly shorter Time to Kill Ratio.

that's because the charts take in consideration dmrs in vanilla and when not moving.
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Revives per assault minute RANK: 6019 TOP: 3%
Headshots / kill percentage RANK:25947 TOP:13%
MVP ribbons RANK:18824 TOP:11%

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Sunday, August 23rd 2015, 11:43pm

I use SCAR H SV with HB Ergo

why this is not the best option?

My Google Sheets is not set up for HC nor Headshots, but if looking at Headshots then I agree the HBar will be much more useful. Personally though it takes me longer to aim for the head than to aim for the chest and shoot 3 times. Remember: fighting V-Recoil while starting from the head = miss, while V-Recoil MAY help you net a bonus headshot if starting from the chest. If nothing else, it is a much bigger area to shoot at.

SCAR-H SV's new awesome H-Recoil values don't mean anything for this one-and-recover shooting style I'm looking at. The same for HBar and Stubby's SIPS buffs. So, it comes down to if you need HBar's ADS - Not Moving spread value or not. If not, then use MB.

If you fire at max-RPM then both H-Recoil and SIPS will come into play, though.

As for Ergo, I'm a fan as you can tell. I just think I wouldn't pair it with HBar; I'd go with MB as a recommendation. Unless, it is the SKS (it kinda needs the HBar) and the QBU-88, both with low starting V-Recoil. Feel free to run the HBar on those.

PS the HBar + AFG chart is exactly the same as HBar + Ergo. Obviously ADS - Moving will be hugely different but not looking at that here.

Finally, if you are shooting one-and-recover, instead of the SCAR-H SV, why not try the SVD-12? Both have the same base spread, same programmed 260RPM, essentially the same damage model, and the SVD can kill 1-3 frames faster if using both with HBar + Ergo / AFG. Don't like the magazine size? Why not the ACE 53 SV?

For myself, I'm now using ACE 53 SV + SUPPRESSOR (same as Naked) + Ergo + Target Detector. If going loud then M39 HBar + AFG or MB + Ergo.

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Monday, August 24th 2015, 12:04am

Pre-patch: Loved the M39!
Now: I'm using the QBU-88 a lot more. Awesome long range capacity (high muzzle velocity, high max distance) along with lower recoil and a bullpup bonus :)

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