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Wednesday, June 10th 2015, 2:43am

I need your help with trolls

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before i start this post i wanne say this is a serious topic and i just don't know what to do about this anymore .



Hello,


i have seen alot of trolls and insults on the battlefield sadly enough , and alot of those insults contain the person called ''your mother'' , now i lost my mother when i was a very young age and ofcourse he moment i see people use these ''mother insults'' i feel quite the rage inside , But what do i do with these people ? If i tell them to shut up they just go on about ''your mother'' witch makes me angrie . You could say turn of the chat , but what if i'm playing with friends who are using the chat ? . Is there any way you guys know how i can silence these kind of people ? Again this is a serious topic for me personally so i hope you guys understand i don't wanne see any troll anwsers .

Thank you for the time

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Wednesday, June 10th 2015, 2:54am

most times people who troll are doing bad in a game, and somehow get very offended when you tell them to look at the scoreboard, you might try that as a first, but in general, growing an inteernet-insult armor is the best way to deal with them: ignore them, yet that should take a lot of time , especially time spent dealing with these guys on places like reddit, forums, youtube,etc...


i've been called worse, a joke on a dead parent or similar is nothing to me at this point, even though i'm a very emotive person who cares a lot about his family and friends.
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Wednesday, June 10th 2015, 3:01am

yep, growing thick skin helps. If you don't feed a troll then eventually it will get bored and move on to someone else. Hope it helps, i feel for ya
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Wednesday, June 10th 2015, 8:13am

Personal best solutions so far :
Turn off chat
Use TS/mumble/Skype to chat with friends.

An internet insult armor only work to a certain extent. There will always exists something to throw you off guard to the rage seas.

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Wednesday, June 10th 2015, 9:28am

Some people are dicks, and that's all there is to it. Most people aren't though.

Just don't feed them, ignoring them is always the best option. And you need really thick skin if you're going to be active with your views on the internet.

Maybe have a mic or use Skype if playing with friends?
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Next, wanna try adding a guy that you KNOW is bad, and just testing to see that? Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

PP-2000 added. Y'know, it's not that bad....

Yes, it comes in last so far, but that is mostly because I'm making it shoot at 100m ADS - Not Moving as one of the criteria. Even then, between 50-100m Not Moving, when you include Useability, it is only 1.37% worse than the MTAR-21. Within 50m then it even beats the A-91.

Have a look, vs. the A-91 Carbine:




Using it with Muzzle Brake and Compensator is a wash in terms of overall performance. Comp is SLIGHTLY more accurate, while MB is SLIGHTLY more easy to use. Their overall scores are basically tied, with MB just ahead. I guess either can be recommended.

But... You can't be counting for the fact that it takes 9 bullets to kill at "long" range... Don't you dare tell me my A-91 is worse than a 9 BTK 650 RPM mediocre PDW.

Also. Just go heavy barrel. The recoil is low enough.

Well, technically...

Comparing a PP2K with HB and an A-91 with comp and stubby (as you suggested in an earlier post), at 50m not moving, the A-91 is only better by 4 damage per hitrate. While at 75m and 100m, surprisingly the PP2K does better than the A-91 (I'm pretty damn surprised as well).

And 10m and 50m moving the PP2K also does more damage per hitrate than the A-91. At 25m the A-91 is only better by about half a bullet's damage as well.

In addition, the PP2K has a much larger mag size and substantially less recoil. And it looks hella awesome. So comparing the A-91 to a PDW is of some worth after all, as the PP2K is better (technically, not practically) than the A-91.

Mind blown.

I... I...

*cries in a corner*

Zer0Cod3x explained it very well. If you look at the raw numbers right here on Symthic Comparison, you can see how that happened:

A-91 vs PP-2000 | BF4 Weapon Comparison | Symthic

A-91's "23%" RPM advantage only afforded it 1 extra round.

Reload times are wash.

Velocities are wash.

V-Recoil are wash (and this is HBar on PP2k vs. A-91 without).

Hipfire and ADS - Moving are better on the PP2k, but it's a PDW and not the surprising part.

The surprising part is that, as equipped (and we see above that PP2k HBar has almost same V-Recoil as A-91 without HBar so why not?), the PDW performs better at 50 - 100m than a bloody Carbine. Why?

H-Recoil Spread, 0.525 vs. 0.45, advantage PP2k.

SIPS, 42% better on the PP2k.

And here is the most important part. ADS - Not Moving Spread, 0.35 vs. 0.2, 43% improvement.

Without HBar then of course the PP2k loses, which is why when I add all the attachments together for an Overall Ranking, it would slot below the A-91. Run HBar on it, though, then... I'm sorry

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Wednesday, June 10th 2015, 11:07am

I have started playing online only a few years ago. Therefore I dont know how it was in e.g. BF2. And I still didnt manage to grow a thick skin. I rage so often.

But I have the feeling, that Trolling and Trolls and the oversaturated "Deal with it" or general annoying the team members in any way possible is a modern age epidemic.

Either people have always been this way OR society finally shows its narcissistic, mouldered and foul core.

IMHO trolling is like mobbying and Mobbying isnt just a wrong behaviour. Its a symptom of our society, where every persond would stoop to anything to gain success. Even if the success is to make the opponent rage and thus making him more vulnerable to failures. In best case the opponent leaves the game and feels harmed in his self-assurance.

Its a really dirty way of playing. Unfortunately Battlefield gives so many options to trolls.
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Wednesday, June 10th 2015, 1:55pm

If you feel "rage inside" because some idiot on the internet said something, trolls are the least of your problems.

Try relaxation exercises.

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Wednesday, June 10th 2015, 2:12pm

shitpost ahead

If you feel "rage inside" because some idiot on the internet said something, trolls are the least of your problems.

Try relaxation exercises.


you see, different people take things differently, some a re more sensible than others, and some have a different way to see the internet and it's inhabitants than you, because as much as you probablby will never see that guy in real life,that person is still a human being that felt some sort of hate or anthypaty towards you, and that can make you less confident about yourself, in which cases, the person who the insult was directed to tries to understand, or react to the insult, to proctect himself and who's with him from psychologiical threat.

seriously, this attitude towards online insults is shit, just because the troll is a plague of society it doesn't mean it has to slide off like nothing.
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23rd M320FB user on pc(13/05/16)
rush mode score RANK:2794 TOP:2% OUT OF:215398
obliteration mode scoreRANK:994 TOP:1% OUT OF:159466
handgun medals RANK:2236 TOP:2% OUT OF:143874
longest headshot RANK:9512 TOP:4% OUT OF:257589
recon score RANK:10871 TOP:4% OUT OF:274899
general score per minute RANK:10016 TOP:4% OUT OF:294774

bf3
31/3/2012 4:58:

Headshot distance RANK:493* TOP:0%
Revives per assault minute RANK: 6019 TOP: 3%
Headshots / kill percentage RANK:25947 TOP:13%
MVP ribbons RANK:18824 TOP:11%

*= 6 if we not count the EOD BOT headshots

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Wednesday, June 10th 2015, 2:20pm

shitpost ahead

You weren't kidding.