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Wednesday, March 4th 2015, 9:03pm

Defensive prevents OHK from OHK weapons. No point changing that. It is already pretty weak.


Nah man, anything that changes damage is clearly overpowered.

It's not like something that's doing its designed job should be in the game.

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That is a poor reason to give the bow OHK.
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Wednesday, March 4th 2015, 9:09pm

Defensive prevents OHK from OHK weapons. No point changing that. It is already pretty weak.


Nah man, anything that changes damage is clearly overpowered.

It's not like something that's doing its designed job should be in the game.

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That is a poor reason to give the bow OHK.

Why? If you can't have a guaranteed 1 hit kill with it up close whats the point. It's hard enough to land 1 hit nevermind 2. It's laughably bad when you combine that with the vapor trail.

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Wednesday, March 4th 2015, 9:12pm

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Wednesday, March 4th 2015, 9:13pm

Defensive prevents OHK from OHK weapons. No point changing that. It is already pretty weak.


Nah man, anything that changes damage is clearly overpowered.

It's not like something that's doing its designed job should be in the game.

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That is a poor reason to give the bow OHK.

Why? If you can't have a guaranteed 1 hit kill with it up close whats the point. It's hard enough to land 1 hit nevermind 2. It's laughably bad when you combine that with the vapor trail.


If the problem is landing the follow up shot, why not make it easier to land instead of making the first shot stronger?

SR338 had the exact same problem. It had great difficulty landing its second shot. What did people want? Damage buffs.

Identify the problem.

Fix the problem.
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Wednesday, March 4th 2015, 9:18pm

It is not intended to be good.

Define good. It should still be worth the effort of unlocking it.

Defensive prevents OHK from OHK weapons. No point changing that. It is already pretty weak.


Nah man, anything that changes damage is clearly overpowered.

It's not like something that's doing its designed job should be in the game.

@MadMattDog

That is a poor reason to give the bow OHK.

Why? If you can't have a guaranteed 1 hit kill with it up close whats the point. It's hard enough to land 1 hit nevermind 2. It's laughably bad when you combine that with the vapor trail.


If the problem is landing the follow up shot, why not make it easier to land instead of making the first shot stronger?

SR338 had the exact same problem. It had great difficulty landing its second shot. What did people want? Damage buffs.

Identify the problem.

Fix the problem.

Is that a feasible solution? Speed up the fire rate, reloading an arrow is painfully slow. Make it always shoot straight even when you "hip fire" with it? I don't have the numbers for it so I'm not sure how that works. Ignoring defensive just seems like the simplest solution, but I'll concede simple isn't always best.

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Wednesday, March 4th 2015, 9:29pm


Is that a feasible solution? Speed up the fire rate, reloading an arrow is painfully slow. Make it always shoot straight even when you "hip fire" with it? I don't have the numbers for it so I'm not sure how that works. Ignoring defensive just seems like the simplest solution, but I'll concede simple isn't always best.


As said before, there's a whole bunch of other values that can be tweaked to increase survivability and make follow ups easier.
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Wednesday, March 4th 2015, 9:37pm

Trajectory so you can actually hit. Magnification so you can actually see. ADS movement so you are quicker. Hipfire so you save time... Nah, let's leave it terrible and boring in all those regards and make it OHK.
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Wednesday, March 4th 2015, 9:39pm

Trajectory so you can actually hit. Magnification so you can actually see. ADS movement so you are quicker. Hipfire so you save time... Nah, let's leave it terrible and boring in all those regards and make it OHK.


I think DICE should simplify things for the next Battlefield.

No magazine size.

No reload time.

No movement speed.

No muzzle velocity.

No gravity.

No spread.

No recoil.

No damage drop off.

No ROF.

Only Max Damage.

It's the only thing that matters after all.
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Wednesday, March 4th 2015, 10:07pm

Trajectory so you can actually hit. Magnification so you can actually see. ADS movement so you are quicker. Hipfire so you save time... Nah, let's leave it terrible and boring in all those regards and make it OHK.


I think DICE should simplify things for the next Battlefield.

No magazine size.

No reload time.

No movement speed.

No muzzle velocity.

No gravity.

No spread.

No recoil.

No damage drop off.

No ROF.

Only Max Damage.

It's the only thing that matters after all.
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Wednesday, March 4th 2015, 10:09pm

I'm going to flood the market.
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