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Wednesday, January 28th 2015, 12:50pm

About BF4 Shotgun Status

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I have questions about Symthic's shotgun stats pages titled as "Shotguns" and "Shells".

The pages shows detail shotgun's status.
However, I think, pump and semiauto shotgun information is mixed.
For example, DAO-12 is a pump shotgun, but its buckshot damage is 18-6 in the shotguns page...it is one by semiauto according to the shells page.
Other shotguns are more or less as well.
Really confusing...

Is the shells page correct? Is the shotguns page incorrect?
Is the shells page incorrect? Is the shotguns page correct?

Please teach me which is right.

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Wednesday, January 28th 2015, 1:20pm

18-6 is the damage model of semi auto shotgun, it's all correct.
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Wednesday, January 28th 2015, 2:48pm

Shotgun shells are connected to shotgun by what files say, so if it says shotgun is using semi-auto shells it should be true.
Some of the data looks weird but with some quick manual checking it seems to be correct. ie. 870MCS uses semi-auto versions of shells except for slug and frag.
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Wednesday, January 28th 2015, 3:27pm

Slugs and frags are separated by pump/semi, with the pump versions doing slightly more damage.

Buckshot and flechettes are separated between Chinese and the the other factions. The Chinese shotguns (HAWK12 and QBS09) have lower damage per pellet and more pellets than their US/RU equivalents.
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Wednesday, January 28th 2015, 3:43pm

Hrmh, why didn't I think of that. I guess frags/slugs seperation between semi-auto and pump shotguns confused us when we were making that section.
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Thursday, January 29th 2015, 3:05am

Thank you for your reply. I'm really glad!
And sorry for my bad explanation in the former post. It might make you confused.
Slugs and frags are separated by pump/semi, with the pump versions doing slightly more damage.

Buckshot and flechettes are separated between Chinese and the the other factions. The Chinese shotguns (HAWK12 and QBS09) have lower damage per pellet and more pellets than their US/RU equivalents.
Got it! Perfect answer! Thank you, Labby!

Hrmh, why didn't I think of that. I guess frags/slugs seperation between semi-auto and pump shotguns confused us when we were making that section.
Got it! Thank you, Miffyti! Symthic is always a great help for BF4 players and me. I really appreciate it, you its developers and their dedication!


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Thursday, January 29th 2015, 6:20am

RE: About BF4 Shotgun Status

Thank you for reading this post.
I have questions about Symthic's shotgun stats pages titled as "Shotguns" and "Shells".

The pages shows detail shotgun's status.
However, I think, pump and semiauto shotgun information is mixed.
For example, DAO-12 is a pump shotgun, but its buckshot damage is 18-6 in the shotguns page...it is one by semiauto according to the shells page.
Other shotguns are more or less as well.
Really confusing...

Is the shells page correct? Is the shotguns page incorrect?
Is the shells page incorrect? Is the shotguns page correct?

Please teach me which is right.


DAO-12 is not pump action.