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Sunday, October 5th 2014, 4:33am

PDWs with built-in Grips

I've been told that all of them, including the MP7 despite it being listed as Folding, actually have Ergo Grips. What I'm wondering is, does this mean they have base stats, then the Ergo Grip is applied to them like any other gun, and it's simply hidden from the user? Or do they actually have no Grip, with the base stats implying they have an Ergo Grip, but technically they don't?
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Sunday, October 5th 2014, 4:51am

AFAIK, those are the stats w/o the implied ergo grip added in

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Sunday, October 5th 2014, 5:06am

AFAIK, those are the stats w/o the implied ergo grip added in


So they have real grips just like everything else? You could technically change the grips on them? You're confusing me with "implied".
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Sunday, October 5th 2014, 5:18am

Yes they have base stats.

Yes those grips are applied after.

And you technically could AFAIK.
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Sunday, October 5th 2014, 5:30am

the stats listed on the charts for moving spread are not the actual in-game values, so no it would not reflect the ergo grip bonus.

moving spread for most PDW's is .485

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Sunday, October 5th 2014, 5:30am

Yes they have base stats.

Yes those grips are applied after.

And you technically could AFAIK.


Okay awesome, thanks!

Also, what do they appear as in the comparisons? Base stats only? Because you can't equip Grips there.
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Sunday, October 5th 2014, 5:32am

what do they appear as in the comparisons? Base stats only? Because you can't equip Grips there.


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Sunday, October 5th 2014, 5:36am

what do they appear as in the comparisons? Base stats only? Because you can't equip Grips there.


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the stats listed on the charts for moving spread are not the actual in-game values, so no it would not reflect the ergo grip bonus.

moving spread for most PDW's is .485



Hmm, that could be rather misleading.
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Sunday, October 5th 2014, 5:41am

It seems that if the PDW can't change/customize grips, it has vert equipped by default (as an invisible attachment).

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Sunday, October 5th 2014, 5:43am

It seems that if the PDW can't change/customize grips, it has vert equipped by default (as an invisible attachment).


That's what I was hoping.

Oh, and related: Do the 870/Hawk/SPAS/UTS have a hidden Grip? Or the Shorty? Or the 93R?
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