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Wednesday, August 13th 2014, 1:06am

Muzzle Brake nerf in the upcoming patch?

Saw in the vid previewing the upcoming patch with gun changes that the Muzzle Break was getting nerfed from -25% vrecoil to only -10% vrecoil, but getting the spread increase decreased to compensate.

I didn't see this change mentioned in the thread detailing the official changes - is this still going through, or has it been reverted on the CTE?

Also, did this affect the Compensator or was that still a -25% HRec?

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Wednesday, August 13th 2014, 1:12am

Comp had no change.

Yes, it's going through. And people didn't post about it because they were asked not to. It is in the official thread though. It's just been buried.

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Attachment Changes

Muzzle brake: 
0.9 vertical recoil mod
1.125 spread increase mod
1.125 ADS max spread

Heavy barrel:
1.33 vertical recoil mod 
0.75 ADS moving minimum spread mod 

Spread increase per shot not correctly scaled with caliber and ROF
Low damage PDWs:
MP7: 0.100 (was  0.124) 
P90: 0.094 (was 0.117)
JS2: 0.094 (was 0.117)

L85: 0.098 (was 0.104)
AWS: 0.101 (was 0.085)
RPK-74M: 0.078 (was 0.07)
SR-2: 0.117 (was 0.091)
AR-160: 0.091 (was 0.12)
QBZ-95-1: had 0.06 in most stances, now 0.085

Bullet velocity
UMP-9: 420 m/s (old: 370)
PP-2000: 450 m/s (old: 400)
A-91: 470 m/s (old: 420)
SG553: 470 m/s (old: 430)
AKU-12: 500 m/s (old: 450)
Type-95B-1: 540 m/s (old: 490)
G36C: 550 m/s (old: 500)
CZ-805: 620 m/s (old: 580)
RPK-12: 600 m/s (old: 580)
M60E4: 600 m/s (old: 560)
M1911: 310 m/s (old: 270) 
HK45C: 270 m/s (old:  250)
RFB: 500 m/s (old: 460)
ACE 21 CQB: 440 m/s (old: 410)

Damage Models/TTK increase
SCAR-H, Bulldog and ACE 52 CQB: Minimum damage lowered by 1

Pistols
DEAGLE
Increase ADS minspread to 0.35 stand/crouch/zoom standing still
Reduce bullet velocity to 320 m/s
Increase horizontal recoil to 0.35/0.35

Assault Rifles
L85
Bugfix: Recoil decrease is 4, should be 18 (like all other 5.56 ARs)
Decrease vertical recoil to 0.37

FAMAS
NO changes, placebo

F2000
Decrease horizontal recoil to 0.325/0.325

AUG A3
Decrease horizontal recoil to 0.25/0.2

CZ-805
Decrease horizontal recoil to 0.05/0.3

AR-160
Increase horizontal to 0.25/0.25
Set spread increase to 0.091 
Set recoil decrease to 18
Reduce vertical recoil to 0.23 

Bulldog
Increase horizontal recoil to 0.4/0.4

QBZ-95-1
Short reload 2.85 seconds

Carbines
MTAR
Increase horizontal recoil to 0.45/0.45

SG553
Decrease horizontal recoil to 0.25/0.45

A-91
Decrease horizontal recoil to 0.35/0.35

ACE 21 CQB
Increase first shot multiplier to 2.2

ACE 52 CQB
Increase horizontal recoil to 0.3/0.3

PDWs
P90
Reduce horizontal recoil to 0.35/0.35

MPX
Increase horizontal recoil to 0.4/0.4

CBJ-MS
Decrease horizontal recoil to 0.3/0.3

LMGs
RPK-74M
Reduce vertical recoil to 0.22

Type-88
Decrease horizontal recoil to 0.3/0.3
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Wednesday, August 13th 2014, 6:58pm

I'd love to know the logic behind this. Wasn't the muzzle next to useless already?

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Wednesday, August 13th 2014, 7:26pm

It is just as good before. Just less drastic. The logic behind it may be that there are lots of idiots asking for more vertical recoil because it is "too low" now, while at the same time using muzzle bricks only. Looks like DICE delivered.
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Wednesday, August 13th 2014, 7:43pm

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Oooo that looks interesting! Was the hbar nerfed too?

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Wednesday, August 13th 2014, 7:46pm

No, because the brick has not been nerfed either.
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Wednesday, August 13th 2014, 7:47pm

It is just as good before. Just less drastic. The logic behind it may be that there are lots of idiots asking for more vertical recoil because it is "too low" now, while at the same time using muzzle bricks only. Looks like DICE delivered.


Reminds me of how Patrick Bach(?) said that they had player telemetry data to tell when players were bullshitting them. Never once did I think the Muzzle Breaker was responsible for low recoil. Then again, I feel BF4 vertical recoil is already rather low but that just might be my sensitivity.
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Wednesday, August 13th 2014, 7:53pm

muzzle bricks
idk I kinda like the look of the Madbull JP flash hider ...
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Wednesday, August 13th 2014, 7:56pm

@CobaltRose what kind of airsoft gun produces a muzzle flash?
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Wednesday, August 13th 2014, 7:59pm

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Oooo that looks interesting! Was the hbar nerfed too?

Mostly, no. The hbar moving ADS spread bonus was decreased slightly. The decrease won't be enough to negatively impact most engagements. However, the recoil increase is being lowered by a very noticeable amount.