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Saturday, June 24th 2017, 10:28am

Red Baron's P08 Vs. Standard P08

Is there REALLY a statistical difference between Red Baron's P08 and the standard version of the P08? Apparently, it's always been said that the Red Baron variant has more recoil, but better damage drop-off ranges. Of course, one should never fully rely on the in-game "stats." Skimming the data browser, I can't find any different "gun sway" or ammo files regarding this variant.

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Saturday, June 24th 2017, 12:28pm

At release there was no effective differences between weapons and their reskins (like P08). Unless DICE has changed their stance on these weapons, I doubt they have any difference compared to the vanilla versions.
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Saturday, January 27th 2018, 1:33pm

In the last couple weeks, I used the Red Baron P08 for the Mosin pistol unlock requirement (not that I noticed the skin but don't get exclusives very often so I'm going up use them out of spite lol) in almost all classes except 1 that I can't recall that needed a pretty high kill amount with another side arm for a higher priority unlock. For some reason, the game was not registering kills with Baron variant (according to the weapon menu kill percentage counter) but started working again when I switched to the regular P08.

Didn't really test this in depth as I was working on other unlocks and didn't really care if it existed only as a temporary bug or some other intermittent issue. Frankly, just the possibility of it was unnerving enough for me to lose confidence in using the Baron variant because I don't appreciate the aesthetics enough that it outweighs the risk.

Anyone, else notice this?

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Saturday, January 27th 2018, 1:41pm

In the last couple weeks, I used the Red Baron P08 for the Mosin pistol unlock requirement (not that I noticed the skin but don't get exclusives very often so I'm going up use them out of spite lol) in almost all classes except 1 that I can't recall that needed a pretty high kill amount with another side arm for a higher priority unlock. For some reason, the game was not registering kills with Baron variant (according to the weapon menu kill percentage counter) but started working again when I switched to the regular P08.

Didn't really test this in depth as I was working on other unlocks and didn't really care if it existed only as a temporary bug or some other intermittent issue. Frankly, just the possibility of it was unnerving enough for me to lose confidence in using the Baron variant because I don't appreciate the aesthetics enough that it outweighs the risk.

Anyone, else notice this?

It's always been that way. The Red Baron's P08 is not a variant of the P08 but an entirely separate gun that has the same stats and model as the regular P08.

Don't ask why....
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Monday, March 12th 2018, 6:32pm

I guess, the same is with the Lawrence from Arabia SMLE, right? Too bad I quite like skin :/
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Monday, March 12th 2018, 10:49pm

I guess, the same is with the Lawrence from Arabia SMLE, right? Too bad I quite like skin :/

Yes, it is only a reskin.

(I am going to allow this necro for being on-topic)
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  • leptis - Analysis of shotguns, recoil, recoil control and air drag.
  • Veritable - Scoring of BF4/BF1 firearms in terms of usability, firing and other mechanics.
  • Miffyli - Random statistical analysis of BF4 battlereports/players and kill-distances. (list is cluttered with other threads).
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