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Friday, March 3rd 2017, 5:25pm

Bayonet drawbacks?

Hey guys sorry if this question has been asked before but are there any drawbacks for using a bayonet rifle outside of visual aspects (bayonet sticking out of windows for example).
With drawbacks I mean penalties for recoil,spread, ADS speed etc. If there are no penalties for using a bayonet then shouldn't you always equip a bayonet on your rifle?

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Friday, March 3rd 2017, 5:37pm

From what i've read it sounds like it slows your ADS and increases spread slightly. but in practice ive never felt any change and goddamn do i love it for sprinting out of sketchy situations

i guess if you keep pulling it out when trying to do normal melee too often you may want it removed

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Friday, March 3rd 2017, 5:45pm

Time until the gun is ready after sprint is longer with a bayonet equipped. No other drawbacks that I know of.
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Friday, March 3rd 2017, 5:47pm

TIme to ready is multiplied by 2.5. There are indeed no other penalties.

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Friday, March 3rd 2017, 6:00pm

From what i've read it sounds like it slows your ADS and increases spread slightly. but in practice ive never felt any change and goddamn do i love it for sprinting out of sketchy situations

i guess if you keep pulling it out when trying to do normal melee too often you may want it removed


where on earth do people keep getting this information

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Friday, March 3rd 2017, 6:04pm

From what i've read it sounds like it slows your ADS and increases spread slightly. but in practice ive never felt any change and goddamn do i love it for sprinting out of sketchy situations

i guess if you keep pulling it out when trying to do normal melee too often you may want it removed


where on earth do people keep getting this information

Word spreads by mouth, people take it as truth.

Many of the people that I've played with that aren't too keen on the technical side of the game had wrong assumptions about game mechanics, just because "I thought so/heard it somewhere".
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Wednesday, March 15th 2017, 4:15pm

Just chiming in here to verify and formalize the 2 correct answers above: The time increase to get to a shooting-ready position after sprinting with bayonet is the only effect of using the bayonet.

(I work at DICE and verified this with the actual weapon designer)

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Wednesday, March 15th 2017, 6:21pm

From what i've read it sounds like it slows your ADS and increases spread slightly. but in practice ive never felt any change and goddamn do i love it for sprinting out of sketchy situations

i guess if you keep pulling it out when trying to do normal melee too often you may want it removed


where on earth do people keep getting this information

Word spreads by mouth, people take it as truth.

Many of the people that I've played with that aren't too keen on the technical side of the game had wrong assumptions about game mechanics, just because "I thought so/heard it somewhere".

also those same people tend to ignore anything that doesn't come from the mouth of those that told them so in the first place, reminds me of when a dude i talked to was playing R6S on ps4, and he came out with such an absurd amount of wrong infos on the game mechanics along with "feeling sound isn't correct at all because it works in X way"(it worked in the completely opposite way) just because his friends there said that's how the game worked, his excuse to not delve into it was that i'm on pc so it might just be that the 2 game builds are different(when they weren't if he would've bothered checking the patch notes)
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Wednesday, March 15th 2017, 7:22pm

From what i've read it sounds like it slows your ADS and increases spread slightly. but in practice ive never felt any change and goddamn do i love it for sprinting out of sketchy situations

i guess if you keep pulling it out when trying to do normal melee too often you may want it removed


where on earth do people keep getting this information

Word spreads by mouth, people take it as truth.

Many of the people that I've played with that aren't too keen on the technical side of the game had wrong assumptions about game mechanics, just because "I thought so/heard it somewhere".

This is why I'm the stats guy for my group of FPS-playing friends. Gotta stay sharp and always be ready to dispense correct information.

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Wednesday, March 15th 2017, 9:35pm

From what i've read it sounds like it slows your ADS and increases spread slightly. but in practice ive never felt any change and goddamn do i love it for sprinting out of sketchy situations

i guess if you keep pulling it out when trying to do normal melee too often you may want it removed


where on earth do people keep getting this information

Word spreads by mouth, people take it as truth.

Many of the people that I've played with that aren't too keen on the technical side of the game had wrong assumptions about game mechanics, just because "I thought so/heard it somewhere".

also those same people tend to ignore anything that doesn't come from the mouth of those that told them so in the first place, reminds me of when a dude i talked to was playing R6S on ps4, and he came out with such an absurd amount of wrong infos on the game mechanics along with "feeling sound isn't correct at all because it works in X way"(it worked in the completely opposite way) just because his friends there said that's how the game worked, his excuse to not delve into it was that i'm on pc so it might just be that the 2 game builds are different(when they weren't if he would've bothered checking the patch notes)
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