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Wednesday, November 4th 2015, 12:34pm

3rd November BF-Hardline Patch notes - Symthic style

Exact patch changes - Battlefield Hardline Patch 3rd November 2015 Official Symthic Patch notes

Site database hasn't been updated yet! It still shows old data till its changelog updates!
Here's a list of weapon changes in the 3rd November patch for BF: Hardline.
Do note that not every aspect of this patch is included this changelog, only bigger weapon ones.

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Weapon changes



Weapon changes:
AKM: InitialSpeed - from 580 to 450
AKM: MaxDistance - from 2900 to 2250
AKS-74u: InitialSpeed - from 450 to 500
AKS-74u: MaxDistance - from 675 to 750
CAR-556: InitialSpeed - from 620 to 500
CAR-556: MaxDistance - from 930 to 750
F2000: InitialSpeed - from 600 to 500
F2000: MaxDistance - from 900 to 750
FAMAS: InitialSpeed - from 600 to 500
FAMAS: MaxDistance - from 900 to 750
FN FAL: InitialSpeed - from 650 to 700
FN FAL: MaxDistance - from 975 to 1050
ARM: InitialSpeed - from 410 to 500
ARM: MaxDistance - from 615 to 750
45T: EDmg - from 15 to 28
HK51: InitialSpeed - from 650 to 700
HK51: BRoF - from 500 to 800
HK51: MaxDistance - from 975 to 1050
L85A2: InitialSpeed - from 640 to 500
L85A2: ADSStandMoveMin - from 0.8 to 0.425
L85A2: ADSStandMoveSpreadDec - from 15 to 20
L85A2: MaxDistance - from 960 to 750
M1911: EDmg - from 15 to 28
M1911: DOStart - from 4 to 10
M416: InitialSpeed - from 600 to 500
M416: MaxDistance - from 900 to 750
MDC: InitialSpeed - from 600 to 450
MDC: MaxDistance - from 3000 to 2250
.300 Knockout: ReloadThrs - from 0.65 to 0.82
RO933: EDmg - from 12 to 16
RO933: SDmg - from 20 to 24
RO933: InitialSpeed - from 580 to 500
RO933: MaxDistance - from 870 to 750
RPK: InitialSpeed - from 580 to 450
RPK: MaxDistance - from 2900 to 2250
SCAR-H: InitialSpeed - from 410 to 700
SCAR-H: MaxDistance - from 615 to 1050
SG 510: InitialSpeed - from 410 to 700
SG 510: MaxDistance - from 615 to 1050
SG553: InitialSpeed - from 430 to 500
SG553: MaxDistance - from 645 to 750
P226: EDmg - from 10 to 25
P226: DOStart - from 8 to 15
P226: DOEnd - from 25 to 30
40 .Pro: EDmg - from 10 to 25
40 .Pro: DOStart - from 8 to 15
40 .Pro: DOEnd - from 25 to 30
92FS: EDmg - from 12 to 25
Scout Elite: RoF - from 73 to 53
Links to users' thread list who have made analytical/statistical/mathematical/cool posts on Symthic:
  • 3VerstsNorth - Analysis of game mechanics in BF4 (tickrates, effects of tickrate, etc)
  • leptis - Analysis of shotguns, recoil, recoil control and air drag.
  • Veritable - Scoring of BF4/BF1 firearms in terms of usability, firing and other mechanics.
  • Miffyli - Random statistical analysis of BF4 battlereports/players and kill-distances. (list is cluttered with other threads).
Sorry if your name wasn't on the list, I honestly can't recall all names : ( . Nudge me if you want to be included

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Wednesday, November 4th 2015, 12:43pm

So what do we learn? Don't ever ever ever ever ever under any circumstances try to shoot the L85A2 while standing still. It's only supposed to ever be used while moving.

I can haz stats for RO933 .300 Blackout and M110K5?

I strongly feel that the M110K5 has the highest FSM in the game and PDW-like hipfire with drastically reduced recoil.
Zormau - Battlelog / Battlefield 3
Zormau - Battlelog / Battlefield 4
Zormau - Battlelog / Battlefield Hardline

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Of course, this ignores the non-constant cross-sectional first moment of area across the chest as well as non-constant material properties of the boob; it would be difficult to perform a more detailed analysis (as in, I'd have to have a shape function AND I'd need to derive a function for elastic modulus as a function of lateral breast coordinate) but whatever. It's 2am and I'm lazy.


I always believed science should be very hands on experience.

You should also answer this question I had posed in that thread: Would you be willing to pay your surgeon more if he was going to use a chainsaw for the opening incision of surgery? Clearly using a chainsaw isn't truly suited for surgery but that doesn't really matter. If he's "skilled" enough to be able to use the wrong tools of the trade, he should be rewarded for that skill right?


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Wednesday, November 4th 2015, 12:46pm

I can haz stats for RO933 .300 Blackout and M110K5?
Working on them atm. .300 Blackout is on site already tho and seems like only ReloadThrs thing changed.
Links to users' thread list who have made analytical/statistical/mathematical/cool posts on Symthic:
  • 3VerstsNorth - Analysis of game mechanics in BF4 (tickrates, effects of tickrate, etc)
  • leptis - Analysis of shotguns, recoil, recoil control and air drag.
  • Veritable - Scoring of BF4/BF1 firearms in terms of usability, firing and other mechanics.
  • Miffyli - Random statistical analysis of BF4 battlereports/players and kill-distances. (list is cluttered with other threads).
Sorry if your name wasn't on the list, I honestly can't recall all names : ( . Nudge me if you want to be included

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Wednesday, November 4th 2015, 12:48pm

I meant the new "RO933 .300 BLK" carbine available to all classes, not ye olde .300 Knockout sniper rifle. :D
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Zormau - Battlelog / Battlefield 4
Zormau - Battlelog / Battlefield Hardline

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Of course, this ignores the non-constant cross-sectional first moment of area across the chest as well as non-constant material properties of the boob; it would be difficult to perform a more detailed analysis (as in, I'd have to have a shape function AND I'd need to derive a function for elastic modulus as a function of lateral breast coordinate) but whatever. It's 2am and I'm lazy.


I always believed science should be very hands on experience.

You should also answer this question I had posed in that thread: Would you be willing to pay your surgeon more if he was going to use a chainsaw for the opening incision of surgery? Clearly using a chainsaw isn't truly suited for surgery but that doesn't really matter. If he's "skilled" enough to be able to use the wrong tools of the trade, he should be rewarded for that skill right?


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Wednesday, November 4th 2015, 12:53pm

Sweet!

So this means the L85 is ''fixed'' ?

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Wednesday, November 4th 2015, 12:57pm

Sweet!

So this means the L85 is ''fixed'' ?

No, and the way I see it it's officially not considered "broken". Apparently it's intended to have 0.9 SIPS while standing still so that you always move or shoot from the hip to reduce SIPS to 0.104. The Skorpion follows the same principle: 0.3 SIPS while standing ADS, 0.124 while moving and from the hip.
Zormau - Battlelog / Battlefield 3
Zormau - Battlelog / Battlefield 4
Zormau - Battlelog / Battlefield Hardline

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Of course, this ignores the non-constant cross-sectional first moment of area across the chest as well as non-constant material properties of the boob; it would be difficult to perform a more detailed analysis (as in, I'd have to have a shape function AND I'd need to derive a function for elastic modulus as a function of lateral breast coordinate) but whatever. It's 2am and I'm lazy.


I always believed science should be very hands on experience.

You should also answer this question I had posed in that thread: Would you be willing to pay your surgeon more if he was going to use a chainsaw for the opening incision of surgery? Clearly using a chainsaw isn't truly suited for surgery but that doesn't really matter. If he's "skilled" enough to be able to use the wrong tools of the trade, he should be rewarded for that skill right?


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Wednesday, November 4th 2015, 1:04pm

Good thing they bothered to overhaul the velocities at least. I heard velocities was the #1 balance issue in BFH.


Edit: At this point I would say that it is in DICE SE's best interest to have some real-talk with DDD and tell him to get his shit sorted. This is exactly the kind of thing that the BF series does not need now. The balance guys over at DICE SE must know that Hardline balance is completely bonkers, right?

Things people said

And reading Youtube comments still gives me Turbo Cancer.

It really is quite frustrating when Helen Keller sets up her LMG in the only doorway in/out of an area.

What kind of question is that? Since when is cheese ever a bad idea?

Hardline is a fun and sometimes silly Cops and Robbers sorta thing and I think that's great. Or it would be if it didn't suck.

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Wednesday, November 4th 2015, 1:05pm

No, and the way I see it it's officially not considered "broken". Apparently it's intended to have 0.9 SIPS while standing still so that you always move or shoot from the hip to reduce SIPS to 0.104. The Skorpion follows the same principle: 0.3 SIPS while standing ADS, 0.124 while moving and from the hip.

This upside-down balance was meant to please our friends from the southern hemisphere. It's an untapped market. In Brazil, people play better the higher the ping is. It all makes sense.

Good thing they bothered to overhaul the velocities at least. I heard velocities was the #1 balance issue in BFH.

Your sarcasm has palpable gravitational pull.

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Wednesday, November 4th 2015, 1:15pm

At this point I would say that it is in DICE SE's best interest to have some real-talk with DDD and tell him to get his shit sorted. This is exactly the kind of thing that the BF series does not need now. The balance guys over at DICE SE must know that Hardline balance is completely bonkers, right?

Wouldn't DICE LA (tiggr and such) be the better people to ask?
Zormau - Battlelog / Battlefield 3
Zormau - Battlelog / Battlefield 4
Zormau - Battlelog / Battlefield Hardline

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Of course, this ignores the non-constant cross-sectional first moment of area across the chest as well as non-constant material properties of the boob; it would be difficult to perform a more detailed analysis (as in, I'd have to have a shape function AND I'd need to derive a function for elastic modulus as a function of lateral breast coordinate) but whatever. It's 2am and I'm lazy.


I always believed science should be very hands on experience.

You should also answer this question I had posed in that thread: Would you be willing to pay your surgeon more if he was going to use a chainsaw for the opening incision of surgery? Clearly using a chainsaw isn't truly suited for surgery but that doesn't really matter. If he's "skilled" enough to be able to use the wrong tools of the trade, he should be rewarded for that skill right?


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Wednesday, November 4th 2015, 2:41pm

So the M16A3 and G36C were exempt from the velocity change? The HCAR too? It was to receive a "long range BR" bullet. I notice the SA-58 isn't on there as well. Seems it still has its incredibly high velocity.