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Tuesday, June 30th 2015, 10:00pm

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It's why COD:AW stats aren't up on this site
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This is wrong and who every told you this is a liar , The only reason that we don't have COD:AW stats are because the person whom usually gives us all of the COD games stats has gone silent. Simple :huh:

Sorry, twas my interpretation. My bad.
Edit: That was downright wrong and misleading. I'm about to go fix the original post. Very sorry. Again, I am misrepresenting Symthic; my apologies

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No, but i am into immature jokes about sexual intercourse with cats with a pinch of stereotypical asian accent. :D

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Wednesday, July 1st 2015, 1:21am

All your favourite Youtubers like LevelCap, XFactor, Matimi0 etc rely on these stats, not to mention many others. Imagine the uproar if Symthic stopped Hardline stats.
Not really, I follow all of them and they haven't cared for Hardline weapon stats for a long time now. They release maybe 1 Hardline video per month, that's about it.
I doubt they would even notice if the BFH section was removed from this site :P

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Wednesday, July 1st 2015, 1:56am

All your favourite Youtubers like LevelCap, XFactor, Matimi0 etc rely on these stats, not to mention many others. Imagine the uproar if Symthic stopped Hardline stats.
Not really, I follow all of them and they haven't cared for Hardline weapon stats for a long time now. They release maybe 1 Hardline video per month, that's about it.
I doubt they would even notice if the BFH section was removed from this site :P

They're all PC Battlefield players, and PC BFH is pretty much dead. Are there even large console BF channels?
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Of course, this ignores the non-constant cross-sectional first moment of area across the chest as well as non-constant material properties of the boob; it would be difficult to perform a more detailed analysis (as in, I'd have to have a shape function AND I'd need to derive a function for elastic modulus as a function of lateral breast coordinate) but whatever. It's 2am and I'm lazy.


I always believed science should be very hands on experience.

You should also answer this question I had posed in that thread: Would you be willing to pay your surgeon more if he was going to use a chainsaw for the opening incision of surgery? Clearly using a chainsaw isn't truly suited for surgery but that doesn't really matter. If he's "skilled" enough to be able to use the wrong tools of the trade, he should be rewarded for that skill right?


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Wednesday, July 1st 2015, 1:58am

Are there even large console BF channels?


Define Large?
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Hardline is a fun and sometimes silly Cops and Robbers sorta thing and I think that's great. Or it would be if it didn't suck.


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TL;DR: all vehicles in BF4 are screwed up in some way or another.



I know I shouldn't be surprised that something like that even exists but.... 8|


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Wednesday, July 1st 2015, 2:17am

Usually I'd have to say a few hundred thousand subs, but I guess in case of console BF I'd settle for 20k+ subs.

Another requirement is the kind and quality of content (in terms of polish, not accuracy).
Zormau - Battlelog / Battlefield 4

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Of course, this ignores the non-constant cross-sectional first moment of area across the chest as well as non-constant material properties of the boob; it would be difficult to perform a more detailed analysis (as in, I'd have to have a shape function AND I'd need to derive a function for elastic modulus as a function of lateral breast coordinate) but whatever. It's 2am and I'm lazy.


I always believed science should be very hands on experience.

You should also answer this question I had posed in that thread: Would you be willing to pay your surgeon more if he was going to use a chainsaw for the opening incision of surgery? Clearly using a chainsaw isn't truly suited for surgery but that doesn't really matter. If he's "skilled" enough to be able to use the wrong tools of the trade, he should be rewarded for that skill right?


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Wednesday, July 1st 2015, 2:46am

Usually I'd have to say a few hundred thousand subs, but I guess in case of console BF I'd settle for 20k+ subs.

Another requirement is the kind and quality of content (in terms of polish, not accuracy).




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know the guy for about ~5 years now I think,

They are around if you look but I sadly I dought many of them speak polish :P


also it's done

Apparently we do have a facebook... You should go ahead and like it

Oh look and a twitter... Yeah follow us there too pls

If only people would talk back it wouldn't be so lonely.[In B4 I get overwhelmed]


"Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish." - Euripides, Bacchae

"You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant."- Harlan Ellison



Things that I support


Hardline is a fun and sometimes silly Cops and Robbers sorta thing and I think that's great. Or it would be if it didn't suck.


intel best ethernet controllers


ammo regen pls


TL;DR: all vehicles in BF4 are screwed up in some way or another.



I know I shouldn't be surprised that something like that even exists but.... 8|


You're just a spreadsheet baddie.




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Wednesday, July 1st 2015, 2:54am

Yes. Important post. Way more important than what I had asked him before, so IDC if and when they get around to that.
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Of course, this ignores the non-constant cross-sectional first moment of area across the chest as well as non-constant material properties of the boob; it would be difficult to perform a more detailed analysis (as in, I'd have to have a shape function AND I'd need to derive a function for elastic modulus as a function of lateral breast coordinate) but whatever. It's 2am and I'm lazy.


I always believed science should be very hands on experience.

You should also answer this question I had posed in that thread: Would you be willing to pay your surgeon more if he was going to use a chainsaw for the opening incision of surgery? Clearly using a chainsaw isn't truly suited for surgery but that doesn't really matter. If he's "skilled" enough to be able to use the wrong tools of the trade, he should be rewarded for that skill right?


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Wednesday, July 1st 2015, 8:10am

Usually I'd have to say a few hundred thousand subs, but I guess in case of console BF I'd settle for 20k+ subs.

Another requirement is the kind and quality of content (in terms of polish, not accuracy).

OneCheesyMofo
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something something Model 8 bestgun


How to ice an A-91

Next, wanna try adding a guy that you KNOW is bad, and just testing to see that? Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

PP-2000 added. Y'know, it's not that bad....

Yes, it comes in last so far, but that is mostly because I'm making it shoot at 100m ADS - Not Moving as one of the criteria. Even then, between 50-100m Not Moving, when you include Useability, it is only 1.37% worse than the MTAR-21. Within 50m then it even beats the A-91.

Have a look, vs. the A-91 Carbine:




Using it with Muzzle Brake and Compensator is a wash in terms of overall performance. Comp is SLIGHTLY more accurate, while MB is SLIGHTLY more easy to use. Their overall scores are basically tied, with MB just ahead. I guess either can be recommended.

But... You can't be counting for the fact that it takes 9 bullets to kill at "long" range... Don't you dare tell me my A-91 is worse than a 9 BTK 650 RPM mediocre PDW.

Also. Just go heavy barrel. The recoil is low enough.

Well, technically...

Comparing a PP2K with HB and an A-91 with comp and stubby (as you suggested in an earlier post), at 50m not moving, the A-91 is only better by 4 damage per hitrate. While at 75m and 100m, surprisingly the PP2K does better than the A-91 (I'm pretty damn surprised as well).

And 10m and 50m moving the PP2K also does more damage per hitrate than the A-91. At 25m the A-91 is only better by about half a bullet's damage as well.

In addition, the PP2K has a much larger mag size and substantially less recoil. And it looks hella awesome. So comparing the A-91 to a PDW is of some worth after all, as the PP2K is better (technically, not practically) than the A-91.

Mind blown.

I... I...

*cries in a corner*

Zer0Cod3x explained it very well. If you look at the raw numbers right here on Symthic Comparison, you can see how that happened:

A-91 vs PP-2000 | BF4 Weapon Comparison | Symthic

A-91's "23%" RPM advantage only afforded it 1 extra round.

Reload times are wash.

Velocities are wash.

V-Recoil are wash (and this is HBar on PP2k vs. A-91 without).

Hipfire and ADS - Moving are better on the PP2k, but it's a PDW and not the surprising part.

The surprising part is that, as equipped (and we see above that PP2k HBar has almost same V-Recoil as A-91 without HBar so why not?), the PDW performs better at 50 - 100m than a bloody Carbine. Why?

H-Recoil Spread, 0.525 vs. 0.45, advantage PP2k.

SIPS, 42% better on the PP2k.

And here is the most important part. ADS - Not Moving Spread, 0.35 vs. 0.2, 43% improvement.

Without HBar then of course the PP2k loses, which is why when I add all the attachments together for an Overall Ranking, it would slot below the A-91. Run HBar on it, though, then... I'm sorry

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But...
Wha...
I AM HAVING AN EXISTENTIAL CRISIS IN SCHOOL BECAUSE OF YOU TWO.

FUCK YOU NERDS AND YOUR FANCY NUMBERS

SEXY RUSSIAN BULLPUPS FTW.

In all seriousness, thank you both so much for giving me the numbers. I still don't want to accept them. You have led the horse to water. I still need to drink.


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Wednesday, July 1st 2015, 9:45am

It is good to see him active in the thread and obviously referring the questions to other people, but so far I have not seen him put out anything where symthic data miners went wrong apart from using a SP stat on a different pistol, which did not have an impact on the G17 performance.

I mean when I look at the G17 I see a weapon that has a lot of advantages over other pistols. So it is a 3 to 4-hit kill at all times compared to other pistols that go from 3 to 9 hit kills. He dismisses marbles point by saying that just because one person can fire at 900 rounds per minute, so therefore looking at numbers is irreleveant. I probably could not fire at 900, but as far as the stats go the four pistols look rather similar recoil wise, with the same or even less damage. The difference is that the G17 hasn't got a cap on firerate. So as long as you can click faster than the average 400 you will overpower the other pistols, or am I overlooking something here? Why they left the cap so high in the first place is beyond me, had they capped it at 380-420 the performance would have been similar to the rest, so for me this is an oversight, a bug, or even having no clue on the impact.

And this I see from every post, there is nothing substantial that I could work with and no hint at what is wrong on this site. I am always heavily relying on a feel of the weapon as well, which even includes how the weapons look in-game, and how much I liked them in previous installments or even other games, but dismissing stats totally and idolising the Hardline way to weapon mechanics is incomprehensible to me.

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Wednesday, July 1st 2015, 9:56am

I probably could not fire at 900, but as far as the stats go the four pistols look rather similar recoil wise, with the same or even less damage. The difference is that the G17 hasn't got a cap on firerate. So as long as you can click faster than the average 400 you will overpower the other pistols, or am I overlooking something here? Why they left the cap so high in the first place is beyond me, had they capped it at 380-420 the performance would have been similar to the rest, so for me this is an oversight, a bug, or even having no clue on the impact.


As I pointed out earlier, this is one of Hardline's philosophies.

They equate effort into reward.

This is why things like the licenses and syndicate weapons are so ridiculously hard to unlock. If you put the effort into obtaining them, you are rewarded with truly lol weaponry.

It is also why something like the RO933 looks so piss poor. It is a low effort low reward weapon for people who are not able to use weapons with more recoil and better damage. Zachulon states that each of their weapons serves a purpose. The seemingly sucky weapons are apparently for sucky people. This is probably pretty poor wording so I'll just quote him directly:



It is the same with the G17 and Zachulon explicitly states that he feels that people who are able to click at 900 RPM entirely deserve the firepower that they'd be leveraging.
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