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## 16th June BF-Hardline Patch notes - Symthic style

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Smoked Salmon Best Salmon

Posts: 1,025

Date of registration
: Dec 25th 2012

Platform: PC

Location: Yakima. WA

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Thursday, June 18th 2015, 12:28am

### Quoted from "Miffyli"

...

Platoon Marble Duck

### Hate Mail

"you obviously don't know what an argument is as there is only one person battling. Do you really fucking think I want subs? You think you can act all big and powerful just because you sit on a computer at least 6 hours a day like the probably nerdy unwanted retard you are with 4.3k subs? You think 4.3k subs is a lot? LOL you need medicine man. I don't want any subs as i just have a google account for other media and writing comments. Think twice before you act. You even said in your video you aren't that great of a player, and the comments agree you aren't. Maybe you should once again think twice before you act, stop being such an annoying, ignorant bastard that everyone wants to shut up, and god, literally, just shut up. Your voice gave me a headache :sï»¿"

"As a youtuber shouldn't be trying to be reeling in your viewers with exciting stuff being said not your boring ass commentary for your video"

"The more you watch his vid the dumber he gets I swear he's borderline autistic look I got shot behind cover beacuase thin sheets metal are unpenetrable. Bf4 is just as quiet and tactical as bf3 random explosion in the background . Player has dissconected from chat
You started playing bf3 and never touched bfc1/2. Please do yourself a favor and shutdown your generic cod channel down"

"Nice clickb8 Faggot w8ting for your shit tier video to disable comments . Fucking newfag cancer go play some cod you activisiom cock faggot"

"I don't see why he [MarbleDuck] always tries to shit on levelcap he is better and has a million more subs...and also "there isnt a best gun in she game there are guns that are better that others at different engagement distances" yes thats true and whichever is the best/most average at all of them is the "best gun""

"Marbleduck you don't know shit lol levelcap knows more than you do you cant talk about how someone puts up garbage when you do yourself your a newcomer to YouTube acting like you know shit step up in the food chain first then you have the right to talk otherwise your just a fish trying to compete with sharks"

"Why don't we just witness "LevelCap vs MarbleDuck" One on One both on Battlefield 3 and Battlefield 4 seen as there is so much Controversy about the Two Youtubers"

"stfu cunt, BF3 was way better end of discussion"

"Stfu man, you're be littleing the most looked upon Battlefield Youtuber. No one cares about you, how much of an ego you have, or quite frankly your opinion. It's a fucking game.... Does it really fucking matter? Pathetic man."

"fuck you asshole, dont talk shit about total"

"Wtf is your problem? You have no subs and he has millions, yet you pick on him like some kind of stubborn, ignorant, rude child born with a silver spoon is his mouth. It's easy to do that, for example... You said there was no background noise yet there is. You say you're a fairly good player, you're not."

"please talk like a normal person and not like a professional"

Rezmer

Posts: 4,259

Date of registration
: Apr 6th 2012

Platform: PC

Location: From the heart of Europe.

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Thursday, June 18th 2015, 12:29am

Yes?
[Aristocrat's Shoes]

### Quoted from "Darktan13"

TLDR -
Teamwork is where players function by themselves, but their effectiveness is multiplied when they work together. Not a checklist of "did we bring a healer so we can start playing?"

Posts: 1,425

Date of registration
: Jun 23rd 2012

Platform: PC

Location: Germany, Bavaria

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Thursday, June 18th 2015, 1:04am

Funny how the UZI still has battle-rifle spread increase.
Zormau - Battlelog / Battlefield 4

### Quoted from "Nick 30075"

Of course, this ignores the non-constant cross-sectional first moment of area across the chest as well as non-constant material properties of the boob; it would be difficult to perform a more detailed analysis (as in, I'd have to have a shape function AND I'd need to derive a function for elastic modulus as a function of lateral breast coordinate) but whatever. It's 2am and I'm lazy.

I always believed science should be very hands on experience.

### Quoted from "NoctyrneSAGA"

You should also answer this question I had posed in that thread: Would you be willing to pay your surgeon more if he was going to use a chainsaw for the opening incision of surgery? Clearly using a chainsaw isn't truly suited for surgery but that doesn't really matter. If he's "skilled" enough to be able to use the wrong tools of the trade, he should be rewarded for that skill right?

Posts: 292

Date of registration
: Feb 19th 2014

Platform: 360

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Reputation modifier: 3

Thursday, June 18th 2015, 1:10am

i dont understand how crouched shooting would reduce recoil. You would think that having a wide standing "correct" standing stance for shooting would be better than being hunched over and close to the ground.
In modern USA, the Pig roasts you!

Who loves a good ole custom chainsaw!

### Spoiler

Posts: 13

Date of registration
: May 15th 2015

Platform: PC

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Thursday, June 18th 2015, 1:08pm

### Quoted from "kabarka"

Where are the UZI and M45 changes?

Ahaa good catch. these files are, once again, getting some wonky exceptions so I need to tweak around them. I'll try to remember to fix this tomorrow!
Seems like they now use Heavy bullet instead of original one. Damage models is following:

### Source code

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2
3
4

StartDamage 34.0
EndDamage 18.0
DamageFalloffStartDistance 20.0
DamageFalloffEndDistance 35.0

The old one is:

### Source code

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2
3
4

StartDamage 34.0
EndDamage 12.0.
DamageFalloffStartDistance 8.0
DamageFalloffEndDistance 20.0

ARe you sureonly the G36 and 553 have their end dmg buffed to 18? supposed to be all carbines

Symthic Developer

Posts: 3,723

Date of registration
: Mar 21st 2013

Platform: PC

Location: __main__, Finland

Reputation modifier: 17

Thursday, June 18th 2015, 1:39pm

### Quoted from "kabarka"

ARe you sureonly the G36 and 553 have their end dmg buffed to 18? supposed to be all carbines
Pretty sure. Just manually checked AKs and RO933 and they are correctly shown on the pages (unless there is a very weird tweaking going around in files).
• 3VerstsNorth - Analysis of game mechanics in BF4 (tickrates, effects of tickrate, etc)
• leptis - Analysis of shotguns, recoil, recoil control and air drag.
• Veritable - Scoring of BF4/BF1 firearms in terms of usability, firing and other mechanics.
• Miffyli - Random statistical analysis of BF4 battlereports/players and kill-distances. (list is cluttered with other threads).
Sorry if your name wasn't on the list, I honestly can't recall all names : ( . Nudge me if you want to be included

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: May 15th 2015

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Thursday, June 18th 2015, 1:58pm

### Quoted from "kabarka"

ARe you sureonly the G36 and 553 have their end dmg buffed to 18? supposed to be all carbines

Pretty sure. Just manually checked AKs and RO933 and they are correctly shown on the pages (unless there is a very weird tweaking going around in files).

you checked the odd ones, can you pls check AWR and CAR556?

Symthic Developer

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: Mar 21st 2013

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Location: __main__, Finland

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Thursday, June 18th 2015, 2:03pm

### Quoted from "kabarka"

ARe you sureonly the G36 and 553 have their end dmg buffed to 18? supposed to be all carbines
Pretty sure. Just manually checked AKs and RO933 and they are correctly shown on the pages (unless there is a very weird tweaking going around in files).
you checked the odd ones, can you pls check AWR and CAR556?
Both have 15 end damage as well.
• 3VerstsNorth - Analysis of game mechanics in BF4 (tickrates, effects of tickrate, etc)
• leptis - Analysis of shotguns, recoil, recoil control and air drag.
• Veritable - Scoring of BF4/BF1 firearms in terms of usability, firing and other mechanics.
• Miffyli - Random statistical analysis of BF4 battlereports/players and kill-distances. (list is cluttered with other threads).
Sorry if your name wasn't on the list, I honestly can't recall all names : ( . Nudge me if you want to be included

Posts: 13

Date of registration
: May 15th 2015

Platform: PC

Battlelog:

Reputation modifier: 1

Thursday, June 18th 2015, 2:06pm

### Quoted from "kabarka"

ARe you sureonly the G36 and 553 have their end dmg buffed to 18? supposed to be all carbines

Pretty sure. Just manually checked AKs and RO933 and they are correctly shown on the pages (unless there is a very weird tweaking going around in files).

you checked the odd ones, can you pls check AWR and CAR556?

Both have 15 end damage as well.

Thanks! Disappointing

Smoked Salmon Best Salmon

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: Dec 25th 2012

Platform: PC

Location: Yakima. WA

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Thursday, June 18th 2015, 4:46pm

### Quoted from "kabarka"

Disappointing

Ah, yes. That's the adjective I was looking for.

Platoon Marble Duck

### Hate Mail

"you obviously don't know what an argument is as there is only one person battling. Do you really fucking think I want subs? You think you can act all big and powerful just because you sit on a computer at least 6 hours a day like the probably nerdy unwanted retard you are with 4.3k subs? You think 4.3k subs is a lot? LOL you need medicine man. I don't want any subs as i just have a google account for other media and writing comments. Think twice before you act. You even said in your video you aren't that great of a player, and the comments agree you aren't. Maybe you should once again think twice before you act, stop being such an annoying, ignorant bastard that everyone wants to shut up, and god, literally, just shut up. Your voice gave me a headache :sï»¿"

"As a youtuber shouldn't be trying to be reeling in your viewers with exciting stuff being said not your boring ass commentary for your video"

"The more you watch his vid the dumber he gets I swear he's borderline autistic look I got shot behind cover beacuase thin sheets metal are unpenetrable. Bf4 is just as quiet and tactical as bf3 random explosion in the background . Player has dissconected from chat
You started playing bf3 and never touched bfc1/2. Please do yourself a favor and shutdown your generic cod channel down"

"Nice clickb8 Faggot w8ting for your shit tier video to disable comments . Fucking newfag cancer go play some cod you activisiom cock faggot"

"I don't see why he [MarbleDuck] always tries to shit on levelcap he is better and has a million more subs...and also "there isnt a best gun in she game there are guns that are better that others at different engagement distances" yes thats true and whichever is the best/most average at all of them is the "best gun""

"Marbleduck you don't know shit lol levelcap knows more than you do you cant talk about how someone puts up garbage when you do yourself your a newcomer to YouTube acting like you know shit step up in the food chain first then you have the right to talk otherwise your just a fish trying to compete with sharks"

"Why don't we just witness "LevelCap vs MarbleDuck" One on One both on Battlefield 3 and Battlefield 4 seen as there is so much Controversy about the Two Youtubers"

"stfu cunt, BF3 was way better end of discussion"

"Stfu man, you're be littleing the most looked upon Battlefield Youtuber. No one cares about you, how much of an ego you have, or quite frankly your opinion. It's a fucking game.... Does it really fucking matter? Pathetic man."

"fuck you asshole, dont talk shit about total"

"Wtf is your problem? You have no subs and he has millions, yet you pick on him like some kind of stubborn, ignorant, rude child born with a silver spoon is his mouth. It's easy to do that, for example... You said there was no background noise yet there is. You say you're a fairly good player, you're not."

"please talk like a normal person and not like a professional"