28th April BF-Hardline Patch notes - Symthic style - Battlefield Hardline: Technical Discussion

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Tuesday, April 28th 2015, 4:16pm

28th April BF-Hardline Patch notes - Symthic style

Exact patch changes - Battlefield Hardline Patch 28th April 2015 Official Symthic Patch notes

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Site database hasn't been updated yet! It still shows old data till its changelog updates! Updated.
Here's a full list of weapon changes in the 28th April patch for BF: Hardline.
We're also adding accuracy plots in this same site update. Links for the accuracy plots at right do not work at the moment but they should be up soon enough.

Table of contents
Weapon changes

Weapon changes:
AKM: EDmg - from 25 to 24
AKS-74u: ADSProneRecoilLeft - from 0.042 to 0.041
AKS-74u: HIPProneRecoilLeft - from 0.042 to 0.041
FMG9: SDmg - from 21 to 25
HCAR: EDmg - from 24 to 25
HCAR: ADSProneRecoilUp - from 1.1 to 0.65
HCAR: ADSRecoilUp - from 1.5 to 0.7
HCAR: ADSCrouchRecoilUp - from 1.5 to 0.7
HCAR: ADSStandRecoilUp - from 1.5 to 0.7
HK51: EDmg - from 24 to 25
HK51: ADSProneRecoilUp - from 1 to 0.75
HK51: ADSRecoilUp - from 1.25 to 0.8
HK51: ADSCrouchRecoilUp - from 1.15 to 0.8
HK51: ADSStandRecoilUp - from 1.25 to 0.8
.410 Jury: SDmg - from 15 to 20
.410 Jury: DOEnd - from 15 to 20
.410 Jury: DOStart - from 8 to 10
K10: EDmg - from 12 to 8
K10: SDmg - from 34 to 33
K10: DOEnd - from 30 to 25
M240B: EDmg - from 24 to 25
PTR-91: ADSRecoilUp - from 0.7 to 0.5
PTR-91: ADSCrouchRecoilUp - from 0.5 to 0.45
PTR-91: ADSStandRecoilUp - from 0.7 to 0.5
RO933: RoF - from 800 to 850
RO933: BRoF - from 800 to 850
SA-58 OSW: EDmg - from 24 to 25
SCAR-H: EDmg - from 24 to 25
Saiga .308: ADSRecoilUp - from 0.6 to 0.4
Saiga .308: ADSCrouchRecoilUp - from 0.4 to 0.3
Saiga .308: ADSStandRecoilUp - from 0.6 to 0.4

Links to users' thread list who have made analytical/statistical/mathematical/cool posts on Symthic:

3VerstsNorth - Analysis of game mechanics in BF4 (tickrates, effects of tickrate, etc)
leptis - Analysis of shotguns, recoil, recoil control and air drag.
Veritable - Scoring of BF4/BF1 firearms in terms of usability, firing and other mechanics.
Miffyli - Random statistical analysis of BF4 battlereports/players and kill-distances. (list is cluttered with other threads).

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Tuesday, April 28th 2015, 4:21pm

K10: EDmg - from 12 to 8
K10: SDmg - from 34 to 33
K10: DOEnd - from 30 to 25

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Tuesday, April 28th 2015, 4:22pm

HCAR and HK51 changes seem to make sense. Not bad.

K10 BTK: http://fooplot.com/plot/a2g7hfsdad Red is old, blue is new.
Expect inconsistent performance.

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Tuesday, April 28th 2015, 4:42pm

Ah yes, and the FAL keeps its 840 m/s muzzle velocity.

Not at all OP. Nope. Also, not at all the best anti-air gun in the game. Nope.

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WHAT THE FUCK EVEN IS THIS FUCKING GAME?!

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You're into Chinese nowadays?

No, but i am into immature jokes about sexual intercourse with cats with a pinch of stereotypical asian accent.

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Thanks razal.

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I don't even have a big neck.

I didn't know vertigo could disrupt one's sense of size.

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Tuesday, April 28th 2015, 5:07pm

Quoted from "Rezal"

HCAR and HK51 changes seem to make sense. Not bad.

K10 BTK: http://fooplot.com/plot/a2g7hfsdad Red is old, blue is new.
Expect inconsistent performance.

Yikes, gives new meaning to the phrase "wall of bullets".

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Tuesday, April 28th 2015, 6:01pm

So is there anything else useful in the update to make it fucking 8.5GB?

All I see are these, some mode changes and a few generic "fixes".

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Tuesday, April 28th 2015, 6:28pm

Quoted from "Pastafarianism"

Ah yes, and the FAL keeps its 840 m/s muzzle velocity.

Not at all OP. Nope. Also, not at all the best anti-air gun in the game. Nope.

It's not like anybody plays enforcer anyway....or that Helicopters are relevant.

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.410 Jury: SDmg - from 15 to 20
.410 Jury: DOEnd - from 15 to 20
.410 Jury: DOStart - from 8 to 10

How many projectiles does the .410 shoot?

has anybody ever seen the .410 being used?

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Tuesday, April 28th 2015, 6:30pm

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Tuesday, April 28th 2015, 8:00pm

It took them that long to do that little? Wow, I am really impressed by how ineffective their balancing process is. So much still to do, but let's see what we have.

wtf AKS-74U h recoil reduced by 0.001 - why bother?

HCAR still has 0.3 SIPS. Have fun not hitting with the slowest automatic RoF in the game. At least the stupid v-recoil was halved.
Battle Rifle damage buff sounds neat.
K10 is still going to melt faces up close. Still a shotgun on steroids, but much more reined-in.
*sarcasm *The RO933 is now a really good gun with the same RoF as the M416 and worse stats in almost every other aspect. */sarcasm*
The FMG-9 buff might turn out to be delicious.
Curious to see how the DMRs' recoil reduction plays out with visual recoil and all.

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Of course, this ignores the non-constant cross-sectional first moment of area across the chest as well as non-constant material properties of the boob; it would be difficult to perform a more detailed analysis (as in, I'd have to have a shape function AND I'd need to derive a function for elastic modulus as a function of lateral breast coordinate) but whatever. It's 2am and I'm lazy.

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Tuesday, April 28th 2015, 8:39pm

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HCAR still has 0.3 SIPS. Have fun not hitting with the slowest automatic RoF in the game. At least the stupid v-recoil was halved.

That's funny, The World Champion's HCAR has a sips of 0.15. with a rof of 450 spread isn't your biggest problem, it's mechanics with body armor.

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