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oooh, they did a LOT more wrong than screwing up the fire rates.They got the FAMAS and F2000 rate of fire backwards. I understand mistakes, but Visceral keeps making them and never fixes them. L85 and UZI will probably never be fixed and neither will this situation.
it having 0.3 spread increase per shot.Whats the UZI issue?They got the FAMAS and F2000 rate of fire backwards. I understand mistakes, but Visceral keeps making them and never fixes them. L85 and UZI will probably never be fixed and neither will this situation.
They got the FAMAS and F2000 rate of fire backwards. I understand mistakes, but Visceral keeps making them and never fixes them. L85 and UZI will probably never be fixed and neither will this situation.
instead of fixing the problems, they just keep covering it up with new broken content, which they have the cover up even more.
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Is it just me or does the RPK kinda just make the AKM irrelevant? Like it's got slightly more recoil but it's got a faster reload and a much bigger magazine. Plus it can do the stock/stubby combo.
Nevermind that the RPK should actually less recoil but whatever.
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No, but i am into immature jokes about sexual intercourse with cats with a pinch of stereotypical asian accent.You're into Chinese nowadays?
Thanks razal.
I don't even have a big neck.
I didn't know vertigo could disrupt one's sense of size.
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Welcome to Visceral's balance kiddo.
Next, wanna try adding a guy that you KNOW is bad, and just testing to see that? Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)
Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)
PP-2000 added. Y'know, it's not that bad....
Yes, it comes in last so far, but that is mostly because I'm making it shoot at 100m ADS - Not Moving as one of the criteria. Even then, between 50-100m Not Moving, when you include Useability, it is only 1.37% worse than the MTAR-21. Within 50m then it even beats the A-91.
Have a look, vs. the A-91 Carbine:
Using it with Muzzle Brake and Compensator is a wash in terms of overall performance. Comp is SLIGHTLY more accurate, while MB is SLIGHTLY more easy to use. Their overall scores are basically tied, with MB just ahead. I guess either can be recommended.
But... You can't be counting for the fact that it takes 9 bullets to kill at "long" range... Don't you dare tell me my A-91 is worse than a 9 BTK 650 RPM mediocre PDW.
Also. Just go heavy barrel. The recoil is low enough.
Well, technically...
Comparing a PP2K with HB and an A-91 with comp and stubby (as you suggested in an earlier post), at 50m not moving, the A-91 is only better by 4 damage per hitrate. While at 75m and 100m, surprisingly the PP2K does better than the A-91 (I'm pretty damn surprised as well).
And 10m and 50m moving the PP2K also does more damage per hitrate than the A-91. At 25m the A-91 is only better by about half a bullet's damage as well.
In addition, the PP2K has a much larger mag size and substantially less recoil. And it looks hella awesome. So comparing the A-91 to a PDW is of some worth after all, as the PP2K is better (technically, not practically) than the A-91.
Mind blown.
I... I...
*cries in a corner*
Zer0Cod3x explained it very well. If you look at the raw numbers right here on Symthic Comparison, you can see how that happened:
A-91 vs PP-2000 | BF4 Weapon Comparison | Symthic
A-91's "23%" RPM advantage only afforded it 1 extra round.
Reload times are wash.
Velocities are wash.
V-Recoil are wash (and this is HBar on PP2k vs. A-91 without).
Hipfire and ADS - Moving are better on the PP2k, but it's a PDW and not the surprising part.
The surprising part is that, as equipped (and we see above that PP2k HBar has almost same V-Recoil as A-91 without HBar so why not?), the PDW performs better at 50 - 100m than a bloody Carbine. Why?
H-Recoil Spread, 0.525 vs. 0.45, advantage PP2k.
SIPS, 42% better on the PP2k.
And here is the most important part. ADS - Not Moving Spread, 0.35 vs. 0.2, 43% improvement.
Without HBar then of course the PP2k loses, which is why when I add all the attachments together for an Overall Ranking, it would slot below the A-91. Run HBar on it, though, then... I'm sorry
@Veritable
@Zer0Cod3x
I... I...
But...
Wha...
I AM HAVING AN EXISTENTIAL CRISIS IN SCHOOL BECAUSE OF YOU TWO.
FUCK YOU NERDS AND YOUR FANCY NUMBERS
SEXY RUSSIAN BULLPUPS FTW.
In all seriousness, thank you both so much for giving me the numbers. I still don't want to accept them. You have led the horse to water. I still need to drink.
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Welcome to Visceral's balance kiddo.
Handsome Jack influence spotted
No but seriously, at least I understand what Visceral's ideology behind balancing their weapons are; it makes me sympathise with them a little. Doesn't mean I agree with it though. Actually scratch that, it's borderline terrible balancing.
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No, but i am into immature jokes about sexual intercourse with cats with a pinch of stereotypical asian accent.You're into Chinese nowadays?
Thanks razal.
I don't even have a big neck.
I didn't know vertigo could disrupt one's sense of size.
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And reading Youtube comments still gives me Turbo Cancer.
It really is quite frustrating when Helen Keller sets up her LMG in the only doorway in/out of an area.
What kind of question is that? Since when is cheese ever a bad idea?
Hardline is a fun and sometimes silly Cops and Robbers sorta thing and I think that's great. Or it would be if it didn't suck.
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