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Saturday, August 15th 2015, 12:15am

Accuracy chart of L85a2+attachments is off

Something went horribly wrong with the L85A2 accuracy test. In the general plots, whenever any barrel or attachment is put on it (even the flash hider) the accuracy is suddenly almost field wide.

Is this a bug, or is this actually this abysmall

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Saturday, August 15th 2015, 12:48am

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Something went horribly wrong with the L85A2 accuracy test. In the general plots, whenever any barrel or attachment is put on it (even the flash hider) the accuracy is suddenly almost field wide.

Is this a bug, or is this actually this abysmall

Nope. This is Visceral being ABSOLUTE morons and accidentally not adding the extra zero when attempting to fix the L85's SIPS. There was supposed to be a buff from .114 or something to .09, but instead they made it .9

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Saturday, August 15th 2015, 12:50am

Some of the pages seem to show older versions of the accuracy plots, will fix this when I get all things set up on my new laptop again.

And yeah, according to the files the weapon has insane spread decrease but only when ADS and staying still. "Moving" and "jumping" etc spread increase is the more logical 0.104. They mentioned that they do some stuff differently than BF4 but this would be very odd if they do it "differently".

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Saturday, August 15th 2015, 10:54am

Some of the pages seem to show older versions of the accuracy plots, will fix this when I get all things set up on my new laptop again.

And yeah, according to the files the weapon has insane spread decrease but only when ADS and staying still. "Moving" and "jumping" etc spread increase is the more logical 0.104. They mentioned that they do some stuff differently than BF4 but this would be very odd if they do it "differently".

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No need to use such harsh words.
In his defence, this is, pretty, pretty bloody incompetent. This is more incompetent that the "rof and damage changes but no recoil changes" that self-evidently happened to the BR's and carbines in the closed beta Levelcap played and showcased the weapons of, of which many RoF stats got swapped, but as the release stats clearly showed, had their recoil values completely unchanged, resulting in the situation in which the SA58 somehow, even though being the highest DPS BR in the game, had the lowest recoil (that closed beta only gave it 500 RoF but a larger magazine), while the HK and HCAR had absurdly high variants (the first originally having 600 RoF and the other having the label "heavy hitter")

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Saturday, August 15th 2015, 12:26pm

Some of the pages seem to show older versions of the accuracy plots, will fix this when I get all things set up on my new laptop again.

And yeah, according to the files the weapon has insane spread decrease but only when ADS and staying still. "Moving" and "jumping" etc spread increase is the more logical 0.104. They mentioned that they do some stuff differently than BF4 but this would be very odd if they do it "differently".

@Pastafarianism
No need to use such harsh words.
In his defence, this is, pretty, pretty bloody incompetent. This is more incompetent that the "rof and damage changes but no recoil changes" that self-evidently happened to the BR's and carbines in the closed beta Levelcap played and showcased the weapons of, of which many RoF stats got swapped, but as the release stats clearly showed, had their recoil values completely unchanged, resulting in the situation in which the SA58 somehow, even though being the highest DPS BR in the game, had the lowest recoil (that closed beta only gave it 500 RoF but a larger magazine), while the HK and HCAR had absurdly high variants (the first originally having 600 RoF and the other having the label "heavy hitter")

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