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Friday, June 26th 2015, 2:37am

Tracer rounds change damage models

tested on only m416 and m16 and they do a max damage of 23 with tracers on. also m416 and m16 max damage is now 27 not 28.

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Friday, June 26th 2015, 2:55am

The files say otherwise--damage is still 28, with unchanged DO start as well, and I don't think that there's anything AP Tracers do except change material multipliers, and I thought it was still 1.0 for body shots.

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Friday, June 26th 2015, 2:57am

tracers on the version i'm looking at says 24 max damage but i can't be arsed to verify if it's the right ptojectile
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Friday, June 26th 2015, 4:58am

well i shot my buddy multiple times earlier in every extremity at least 3 times each. shoulders 27 damage, chest 27 damage, and stomach 27 damage. never once got 28 damage. Not that it really makes a difference at all but trust me i tested it. arms and legs it did 26 damage. then headshot did 56. I play "competitive" if there is such a thing in hardline and we test out a lot of different things. after noticing m416 and m16 doing 23 damage i felt like that number was odd so i took tracers off and did even more extensive testing to try to achieve 28 max damage. it just never happened. DO and minimum are still the same but max was not in my case. Could have been a server glitch? it was private. but i doubt it.

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Friday, June 26th 2015, 5:02am

test it out marble. i dont have the capabilities to edit and record or id make a video on it. i want to know if the results are consistent. I know for sure tracers do less damage. I was told that by a guy in a twitch chat and i didnt believe him for a second so thats why i was testing it to begin with. I can understand why there would be downfalls to tracers damage model wise because if not it would basically be pay to win attachment when it comes to armored inserts. It bothers me though because there is no downfall to armored inserts.

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HUD is known to have issues like the SR338 being a 2 shot kill but doing 49 damage according to the HUD.

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Friday, June 26th 2015, 6:48am

i understand what the files say. ive looked at them myself. but thats not whats going on in game

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Friday, June 26th 2015, 7:58am

Don't trust the HUD.
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Friday, June 26th 2015, 9:40am

Moving max damage to bit lower values seems to be one of the things tracers do, wouldn't make sense otherwise and "nerfing" normal-flesh damage via material multipliers would get messy as hell.
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Friday, June 26th 2015, 7:26pm

Don't trust the HUD.
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