Welcome to symthic forums! We would love if you'd register!
You don't have to be expert in bit baking, everyone is more than welcome to join our community.

You are not logged in.

Hey! If this is your first visit on symthic.com, also check out our weapon damage charts.
Currently we have charts for Battlefield 3, Call of Duty: Black Ops 2, Medal of Honor: Warfighter and Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3

Posts: 74

Date of registration
: Jan 19th 2013

Platform: PC

Battlelog:

Reputation modifier: 6

  • Send private message

11

Thursday, April 16th 2015, 8:18pm

The recoil on SCAR-H and SA-58 is fine. It may seem high after the ARs, but all you need is a barrel attachment.
The hk51 and hcar, however, do require recoil reduction, because there's just no incentive to use them

DeathOfTheDodo

Veni, SMAW, Vici

(863)

Posts: 1,829

Date of registration
: Jun 30th 2013

Platform: PS4

Location: North of The Wall, Canada

Battlelog:

Reputation modifier: 11

  • Send private message

12

Friday, April 17th 2015, 4:38pm

The recoil on SCAR-H and SA-58 is fine. It may seem high after the ARs, but all you need is a barrel attachment.
The hk51 and hcar, however, do require recoil reduction, because there's just no incentive to use them


I agree. I think is what he meant to say, since the HK/HCAR have already been said to have their recoil reduced.


SCAR/SA58 with less recoil and 25 min damage would completely eliminate the Operator class for me.
[SYM]Deathofthedodo
BE ADVISED BE ADVISED BE ADVISED BE ADVISED BE ADVISED BE ADVISED BE ADVISED

"AK Attachment Guide"

No.

Posts: 1,437

Date of registration
: Jun 23rd 2012

Platform: PC

Location: Germany, Bavaria

Battlelog:

Reputation modifier: 12

  • Send private message

13

Friday, April 17th 2015, 8:26pm

- Spawn points will be fixed in the next patch (duh) (''The guys looked at the setups and made changes to the schematics.'')

Can't come too soon, really.
- The devs have talked about supporting TDM size of both 32 and 64, not in this patch though

I don't quite understand that one. There are plenty of 32 and 64 player servers for TDM out there.
- Battle Rifles will get about half the vertical recoil they have now

Going to half is definitely too much if they apply it to all BRs. The AKM will be horribly outmatched then if they don't give the BRs a notable FSM.
- Plans for making pistol only a server option

While there are already a few TDM pistol only servers I really like the official support as it's among the most fun things to do in BFH. Sure, the pistols are in dire need of balancing but at least every class has ONE gun that's good. (G17, RS357 AND .44 Magnum, Beagle and all machine pistols ('cept perhaps the 93R)
The first patch still seems to be stuck in cert, gg Microsoft/Sony.

Awesome, so the PC isn't getting the patch because the console can't have it yet.
Zormau - Battlelog / Battlefield 4

Memorable quotes not taken yet:


Of course, this ignores the non-constant cross-sectional first moment of area across the chest as well as non-constant material properties of the boob; it would be difficult to perform a more detailed analysis (as in, I'd have to have a shape function AND I'd need to derive a function for elastic modulus as a function of lateral breast coordinate) but whatever. It's 2am and I'm lazy.


I always believed science should be very hands on experience.

You should also answer this question I had posed in that thread: Would you be willing to pay your surgeon more if he was going to use a chainsaw for the opening incision of surgery? Clearly using a chainsaw isn't truly suited for surgery but that doesn't really matter. If he's "skilled" enough to be able to use the wrong tools of the trade, he should be rewarded for that skill right?


marbleduck

Smoked Salmon Best Salmon

(1,514)

Posts: 1,026

Date of registration
: Dec 25th 2012

Platform: PC

Location: Yakima. WA

Battlelog:

Reputation modifier: 13

  • Send private message

14

Friday, April 17th 2015, 8:51pm

The good BRs (SCARH, SA58 ) were already easier to use than the AKM. Now they're getting half the recoil (the AKM already had more, factoring FSM), and more bottom-end damage. Not to mention that the SCARH and SA58 both shoot faster than it. And have a nicer dropoff.

Good lord, Visceral.

Platoon Marble Duck

Hate Mail

"you obviously don't know what an argument is as there is only one person battling. Do you really fucking think I want subs? You think you can act all big and powerful just because you sit on a computer at least 6 hours a day like the probably nerdy unwanted retard you are with 4.3k subs? You think 4.3k subs is a lot? LOL you need medicine man. I don't want any subs as i just have a google account for other media and writing comments. Think twice before you act. You even said in your video you aren't that great of a player, and the comments agree you aren't. Maybe you should once again think twice before you act, stop being such an annoying, ignorant bastard that everyone wants to shut up, and god, literally, just shut up. Your voice gave me a headache :s"

"As a youtuber shouldn't be trying to be reeling in your viewers with exciting stuff being said not your boring ass commentary for your video"

"The more you watch his vid the dumber he gets I swear he's borderline autistic look I got shot behind cover beacuase thin sheets metal are unpenetrable. Bf4 is just as quiet and tactical as bf3 random explosion in the background . Player has dissconected from chat
You started playing bf3 and never touched bfc1/2. Please do yourself a favor and shutdown your generic cod channel down"

"Nice clickb8 Faggot w8ting for your shit tier video to disable comments . Fucking newfag cancer go play some cod you activisiom cock faggot"

"I don't see why he [MarbleDuck] always tries to shit on levelcap he is better and has a million more subs...and also "there isnt a best gun in she game there are guns that are better that others at different engagement distances" yes thats true and whichever is the best/most average at all of them is the "best gun""

"Marbleduck you don't know shit lol levelcap knows more than you do you cant talk about how someone puts up garbage when you do yourself your a newcomer to YouTube acting like you know shit step up in the food chain first then you have the right to talk otherwise your just a fish trying to compete with sharks"

"Why don't we just witness "LevelCap vs MarbleDuck" One on One both on Battlefield 3 and Battlefield 4 seen as there is so much Controversy about the Two Youtubers"

"stfu cunt, BF3 was way better end of discussion"

"Stfu man, you're be littleing the most looked upon Battlefield Youtuber. No one cares about you, how much of an ego you have, or quite frankly your opinion. It's a fucking game.... Does it really fucking matter? Pathetic man."

"fuck you asshole, dont talk shit about total"

"Wtf is your problem? You have no subs and he has millions, yet you pick on him like some kind of stubborn, ignorant, rude child born with a silver spoon is his mouth. It's easy to do that, for example... You said there was no background noise yet there is. You say you're a fairly good player, you're not."

"please talk like a normal person and not like a professional"

Posts: 1,437

Date of registration
: Jun 23rd 2012

Platform: PC

Location: Germany, Bavaria

Battlelog:

Reputation modifier: 12

  • Send private message

15

Friday, April 17th 2015, 9:27pm

The good BRs (SCARH, SA58 ) were already easier to use than the AKM. Now they're getting half the recoil (the AKM already had more, factoring FSM), and more bottom-end damage. Not to mention that the SCARH and SA58 both shoot faster than it. And have a nicer dropoff.

Good lord, Visceral.

True enough, the only thing the AKM really has in terms of accuracy due to its horrid first shot recoil is the somewhat lower SIPS (not by much compared to the SCAR-H). That's another thing that needs to be more linear with the BR's. 1.25 for the HCAR perhaps and up to 1.8 for the others depending on RoF I'd say.
Zormau - Battlelog / Battlefield 4

Memorable quotes not taken yet:


Of course, this ignores the non-constant cross-sectional first moment of area across the chest as well as non-constant material properties of the boob; it would be difficult to perform a more detailed analysis (as in, I'd have to have a shape function AND I'd need to derive a function for elastic modulus as a function of lateral breast coordinate) but whatever. It's 2am and I'm lazy.


I always believed science should be very hands on experience.

You should also answer this question I had posed in that thread: Would you be willing to pay your surgeon more if he was going to use a chainsaw for the opening incision of surgery? Clearly using a chainsaw isn't truly suited for surgery but that doesn't really matter. If he's "skilled" enough to be able to use the wrong tools of the trade, he should be rewarded for that skill right?


DeathOfTheDodo

Veni, SMAW, Vici

(863)

Posts: 1,829

Date of registration
: Jun 30th 2013

Platform: PS4

Location: North of The Wall, Canada

Battlelog:

Reputation modifier: 11

  • Send private message

16

Friday, April 17th 2015, 9:28pm

The good BRs (SCARH, SA58 ) were already easier to use than the AKM. Now they're getting half the recoil (the AKM already had more, factoring FSM), and more bottom-end damage. Not to mention that the SCARH and SA58 both shoot faster than it. And have a nicer dropoff.

Good lord, Visceral.


Marble don't get buttmad about it, just switch to a different better class and reap the benefits.
[SYM]Deathofthedodo
BE ADVISED BE ADVISED BE ADVISED BE ADVISED BE ADVISED BE ADVISED BE ADVISED

"AK Attachment Guide"

No.

marbleduck

Smoked Salmon Best Salmon

(1,514)

Posts: 1,026

Date of registration
: Dec 25th 2012

Platform: PC

Location: Yakima. WA

Battlelog:

Reputation modifier: 13

  • Send private message

17

Friday, April 17th 2015, 10:18pm

The good BRs (SCARH, SA58 ) were already easier to use than the AKM. Now they're getting half the recoil (the AKM already had more, factoring FSM), and more bottom-end damage. Not to mention that the SCARH and SA58 both shoot faster than it. And have a nicer dropoff.

Good lord, Visceral.


Marble don't get buttmad about it, just switch to a different better class and reap the benefits.


>implying that I'm not already using Enforcer a ton


Platoon Marble Duck

Hate Mail

"you obviously don't know what an argument is as there is only one person battling. Do you really fucking think I want subs? You think you can act all big and powerful just because you sit on a computer at least 6 hours a day like the probably nerdy unwanted retard you are with 4.3k subs? You think 4.3k subs is a lot? LOL you need medicine man. I don't want any subs as i just have a google account for other media and writing comments. Think twice before you act. You even said in your video you aren't that great of a player, and the comments agree you aren't. Maybe you should once again think twice before you act, stop being such an annoying, ignorant bastard that everyone wants to shut up, and god, literally, just shut up. Your voice gave me a headache :s"

"As a youtuber shouldn't be trying to be reeling in your viewers with exciting stuff being said not your boring ass commentary for your video"

"The more you watch his vid the dumber he gets I swear he's borderline autistic look I got shot behind cover beacuase thin sheets metal are unpenetrable. Bf4 is just as quiet and tactical as bf3 random explosion in the background . Player has dissconected from chat
You started playing bf3 and never touched bfc1/2. Please do yourself a favor and shutdown your generic cod channel down"

"Nice clickb8 Faggot w8ting for your shit tier video to disable comments . Fucking newfag cancer go play some cod you activisiom cock faggot"

"I don't see why he [MarbleDuck] always tries to shit on levelcap he is better and has a million more subs...and also "there isnt a best gun in she game there are guns that are better that others at different engagement distances" yes thats true and whichever is the best/most average at all of them is the "best gun""

"Marbleduck you don't know shit lol levelcap knows more than you do you cant talk about how someone puts up garbage when you do yourself your a newcomer to YouTube acting like you know shit step up in the food chain first then you have the right to talk otherwise your just a fish trying to compete with sharks"

"Why don't we just witness "LevelCap vs MarbleDuck" One on One both on Battlefield 3 and Battlefield 4 seen as there is so much Controversy about the Two Youtubers"

"stfu cunt, BF3 was way better end of discussion"

"Stfu man, you're be littleing the most looked upon Battlefield Youtuber. No one cares about you, how much of an ego you have, or quite frankly your opinion. It's a fucking game.... Does it really fucking matter? Pathetic man."

"fuck you asshole, dont talk shit about total"

"Wtf is your problem? You have no subs and he has millions, yet you pick on him like some kind of stubborn, ignorant, rude child born with a silver spoon is his mouth. It's easy to do that, for example... You said there was no background noise yet there is. You say you're a fairly good player, you're not."

"please talk like a normal person and not like a professional"

Pastafarianism

Mom's Spaghetti

(305)

Posts: 1,774

Date of registration
: May 10th 2014

Platform: 360

Location: United States, Pennsylvania

Battlelog:

Reputation modifier: 6

  • Send private message

18

Saturday, April 18th 2015, 4:51am

Quoted

1.25 for the HCAR perhaps and up to 1.8 for the others depending on RoF I'd say.

That's reaaaally high...

Symthic's Friendly Neighborhood Pastafarian


Master of nothing, mediocre at everything... except dropping ammo boxes. I do that like it's my fucking job.
BAND RECOMMENDATION OF THE WEEK (or really till whenever I update it): I don't really have much if I'm being honest. Give me some metalcore recommendations and I'll try 'em out
Good Quotes Ahead:

Spoiler Spoiler


Quoted


You're into Chinese nowadays?
No, but i am into immature jokes about sexual intercourse with cats with a pinch of stereotypical asian accent. :D

Thanks razal.

I don't even have a big neck.

I didn't know vertigo could disrupt one's sense of size.


Krolman

Cannot into Rankine

(501)

Posts: 1,235

Date of registration
: Dec 19th 2013

Platform: PC

Location: 45.4000 N, 75.6667 W

Battlelog:

Reputation modifier: 8

  • Send private message

19

Sunday, April 19th 2015, 3:59am

'cept perhaps the 93R

Apparently we do have a facebook... You should go ahead and like it

Oh look and a twitter... Yeah follow us there too pls

If only people would talk back it wouldn't be so lonely.[In B4 I get overwhelmed]


"Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish." - Euripides, Bacchae

"You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant."- Harlan Ellison



Things that I support


Hardline is a fun and sometimes silly Cops and Robbers sorta thing and I think that's great. Or it would be if it didn't suck.


intel best ethernet controllers


ammo regen pls


TL;DR: all vehicles in BF4 are screwed up in some way or another.



I know I shouldn't be surprised that something like that even exists but.... 8|


You're just a spreadsheet baddie.




Posts: 7

Date of registration
: Apr 11th 2015

Platform: PC

Location: The States

Battlelog:

Reputation modifier: 1

  • Send private message

20

Sunday, April 19th 2015, 6:41pm

It seems like Visceral is nearly clueless when it comes to Gun Balance... I'm surprised no one has asked if they're going to reel M416 and M16A3 back in line with the other Operator rifles.