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Tuesday, July 28th 2015, 9:39pm

A non-darted RPG, a frag grenade, an incendiary grenade, breaching charge, laser tripmine, or an M320.

And almost all of the vehicles with mounted guns. Anything with HMG/M3M against CAT can shred it in seconds, and miniguns work too at closer ange.
The problem seems to be people not using these against CATs and other vehicles, unless they are doing really good and pissing them off.
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Tuesday, July 28th 2015, 9:43pm


The gameplay really isn't all that fun when you try to make an infantry-focused battlefield and include weaker vehicles (= good) but then nerf the anti-vehicle capabilitites 5x harder (= vehicles are more dominant than in regular battlefield).

I strongly disagree with this statement. Hardline vehicles have higher offensive capabilities, but lack the survivability of BF4 vehicles. Typically, most vehicles don't last longer than a minute or two. Only skilled drivers/gunners will last longer than that. I've played many hours of both games, and the vehicle rape in BF4 is MUCH worse than Hardline.

When you stay away from tracer darts, the m320 is one of the very few available anti-armor options. And that has an effective range of just a little less than how far you can spit.

What would a CAT, for example, die to (infantry-wise) other than a tracer darted pickup RPG?

A non-darted RPG, a frag grenade, an incendiary grenade, breaching charge, laser tripmine, or an M320.

I suppose it depends on the amount of players. If it's only an 8 v 8 match, then yes, vehicles will be much stronger due to lack of combined arms. But that would no different in BF4.

And how many of those can be utilized beyond 50 meter in a reliable way, as a readily available class-loadout gadget?

That's what I'm getting at.
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Just realized it's 4/20 tomorrow


Thanks for the heads up!
*Logs out of Symthic in preparation*

Hardline is a fun and sometimes silly Cops and Robbers sorta thing and I think that's great. Or it would be if it didn't suck.

>littlebird passanger, semi-auto frag rounds
>gunship OP

Meanwhile at DICE-headquarters during BF4's release:

I'm pretty sure there's a massive post-it on every desk "DON'T FUCKING TOUCH ANYTHING THAT IS ACTUALLY DOING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOING"

UCAV:
"Hey guys remember how stupid prenerf mav was?"

"Lets add c4 to it."

The World Champion went to China once.

They called me a Gweilo.

So I kicked a big fucking hole in their wall and let all the Mongolians in.

just thought I'd share.


The thought of Assaults running out of ACE 23 rounds mid firefight, Engineers facing the rear of an unaware MBT with no rockets left, Recons unable to...Whatever the fuck they do. These are the things that keep me up at night ;(


About hunturk:
I don't know what's funnier, the video itself of the fact that an unlisted video has more views than most of your normal videos :P

...


You just live to hit people upside the noggin with a Math Bomb, don't you?

[context] Maybe it's the UK's overly aggressive porn filter at work. After all, it does have the word "monkey" in it and monkeys have been known to have sex so...


Previously, at DICE HQ:
"Ok guys, the password is "epic dream worlds"; everyone take a letter and do your best to turn it into into something random that we can put into a picture!"


I assume a functional game (BF4) also.

Aww!
*pinches cheeks*
So cute!


But but but

He's a Youtuber ;(

There's no way he doesn't know what he's talking about


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Saturday, August 8th 2015, 8:32pm

So is anyone looking forward to the new DLC or is this game really just that dead?

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Saturday, August 8th 2015, 9:32pm

So is anyone looking forward to the new DLC or is this game really just that dead?

Pretty sure its ashes have already been scattered around the cementary. Peaked at 2.5k'ish people on PC the last 24hrs.
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Best of epic quotes :D

Spoiler Spoiler

Just realized it's 4/20 tomorrow


Thanks for the heads up!
*Logs out of Symthic in preparation*

Hardline is a fun and sometimes silly Cops and Robbers sorta thing and I think that's great. Or it would be if it didn't suck.

>littlebird passanger, semi-auto frag rounds
>gunship OP

Meanwhile at DICE-headquarters during BF4's release:

I'm pretty sure there's a massive post-it on every desk "DON'T FUCKING TOUCH ANYTHING THAT IS ACTUALLY DOING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOING"

UCAV:
"Hey guys remember how stupid prenerf mav was?"

"Lets add c4 to it."

The World Champion went to China once.

They called me a Gweilo.

So I kicked a big fucking hole in their wall and let all the Mongolians in.

just thought I'd share.


The thought of Assaults running out of ACE 23 rounds mid firefight, Engineers facing the rear of an unaware MBT with no rockets left, Recons unable to...Whatever the fuck they do. These are the things that keep me up at night ;(


About hunturk:
I don't know what's funnier, the video itself of the fact that an unlisted video has more views than most of your normal videos :P

...


You just live to hit people upside the noggin with a Math Bomb, don't you?

[context] Maybe it's the UK's overly aggressive porn filter at work. After all, it does have the word "monkey" in it and monkeys have been known to have sex so...


Previously, at DICE HQ:
"Ok guys, the password is "epic dream worlds"; everyone take a letter and do your best to turn it into into something random that we can put into a picture!"


I assume a functional game (BF4) also.

Aww!
*pinches cheeks*
So cute!


But but but

He's a Youtuber ;(

There's no way he doesn't know what he's talking about


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Saturday, August 8th 2015, 10:40pm

I wonder if next BF game is going to be a failure like Hardline, most likely they will play it safe with something known to succeed.

What's this EA rule, strike 3? MoH2010 was a decent game but didn't succeed, Warfighter was an utter failure, if after this complete failure comes another BF game that does not succeed on global scale, we might have to say goodbye to entire franchise :D

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Saturday, August 8th 2015, 10:42pm

The next DLC is looking pretty interesting form the gamescom footage I've seen.

Also we're getting an M82 Primary for the Professional so it'll be fun to mess around on for a bit.
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Saturday, August 8th 2015, 10:43pm

The next DLC is looking pretty interesting form the gamescom footage I've seen.

That kinda what trailers are supposed to be. If EA tried, they could make piece of shit look appealing.

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Saturday, August 8th 2015, 10:44pm

The next DLC is looking pretty interesting form the gamescom footage I've seen.

That kinda what trailers are supposed to be. If EA tried, they could make piece of shit look appealing.


They did, look at [any esports title]

I just like more guns to cheese people with because Hardlol has silly balancing.
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Saturday, August 8th 2015, 10:52pm

Haha yes indeed. One of the most hilarious balances I've seen to date.

Anyone got a screencap of AKS4u prone spread?

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Saturday, August 8th 2015, 10:56pm

Do we know anything about the new guns or gadgets or whatever?

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