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Saturday, July 12th 2014, 2:31pm

M60 e4 - Best heavy hitter?

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I never ever see this gun being used, but why?
Comparing to the other heavy hitting LMGs like the m240b and PkP, it seems worse.

However both of above weapons are not meant for cqb, and are most effective at medium ish range.
The m60, while having a lower ROF, has less recoil and is more accurate in some areas.

Not to mention this and the others low FSM, makes it very good at medium long range tap firing.
It can also 2 shot with a headshot and body shot

What do you guys think of it?
I'm thinking of trying an angles grip, no barrel and magnifier

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Saturday, July 12th 2014, 2:51pm

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Saturday, July 12th 2014, 3:07pm

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Saturday, July 12th 2014, 3:23pm

It's solid. However, it's ruined for many (myself included) by the ridiculous front post which remains in place on all sights bar IR/NV and FLIR. Ideally, I'd run it with HBar and Stubby with an ACOG, but the aimpoint is entirely obscured by the post, making long-range shots... erm... tricky.

Sight aside, however, it's a beast for tap-firing. After you get it down, you gan get the 0.5x multipier on every shot at a pretty repectable rate. I like the stubby for the Max ADS spread buff which lets you hold down the trigger and walk at people in close range, shredding everything with 34 damage rounds. The benifit from the Angled isn't really that large seeing as the FSM is already less than 1 and the ergo is just worse than either overall.
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Saturday, July 12th 2014, 4:07pm

IMO it is not worth picking the M60 over any of the other GPMGs.

The only advantage of the M60 is the slightly lower Hrec, better hipfire (and lower spread increase due to lower RPM) which IMO doesn't offset the huge disadvantages: lowest velocity of the bunch (albeit tied with the PKP), lowest RPM out of the bunch, slowest reload out of the bunch.

The benefits of the M60 aren't really worth anything IMO: Hrec is negligibly lower and Hrec is not that much of an advantage anyway doe to the way all GPMGs are supposed to be used, namely 2-round bursts, where Hrec is of no real importance. Better hipfire is not a real advantage either due to it still being LMG hipfire, which is not very useful to begin with and the low RPM makes it even less worthwhile.

The disadvantages of the M60 on the other hand are quite noticeable: the reload is 2.3 seconds longer than that of the PKP and 1.6 seconds longer than the M240B which are quite large disadvantages. 7.62 damage at 570 RPM gives it quite good TTK, but why settle for 570 RPM when you can have 600 or 650 RPM?

All in all the M60 comes with some small advantages that aren't really that good and IMO doesn't make up for the severe disadvantages.

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Saturday, July 12th 2014, 5:14pm

What definite advantage does it have over the M240?
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Saturday, July 12th 2014, 5:24pm

What definite advantage does it have over the M240?

Viper endorses it and, well, these too (refer to screenshots):

That's all I got.

Edit: The secondary screen is a direct comparison to the PKP.

The M60 is a hip-firing monster between these two LMGs. And it May™ have an ease of use factor Supporting it. *Snicker*
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the Sebstalder is quiet good since it can 3hit kill at any distanc ,but In my opinion i actually thikn the sweeper is better, its got a really really fast firerate that can beat alll those Noobmaticos, Helregall adn shitguns in close quarters , and its also really accurate out to like l;ong range,. overall great allround gun, jsut my 2$ tho

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Saturday, July 12th 2014, 7:01pm

While I agree with the above for general purpose use, for HBar use, I think it's the best. The lower RPM makes it easier to tap single shots, allowing you to take advantage of the 0.5x FSM for super acccurate and sustained fire for excellent long-range dps.

Hipfire and spread increase are both essentially irrelevant for how the weapon should be used (if you don't want to die) and the reload is, well, an LMG reload. ie. Long. If you can duck in cover or whatever for a 6 second reload, you can do if for an 8 second reload. It kind of comes with the package.

But then there's the sight which negates everything I've just said if you're using anything but the irons (which actually aren't horrible). Call me dramatic, but if that front post wasn't there. I'd run M60/HBar/Acog a whole lot more!
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Saturday, July 12th 2014, 8:23pm

The M60 is a novelty in this game, nothing more.

The PKP is the best of the three at everything, with the M240B as a close second. (Reasons for this include the abysmal reload of the M240B, its insane Horizontal recoil, and the inability to reliably sustain fire under most circumstances, relative to the PKP)

It is not really a good idea to use the angled grip on the LMG's. In fact, do not even consider it, it will only make controlling recoil more difficult. Use either HBar+Ergo or Stubby+any barrel attachment (This is the better overall pick, but it is acceptable to use ergo only when paired with a heavy barrel)

The bipod is also a strong choice, but requires the user to become adept with the play style it demands.

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Saturday, July 12th 2014, 8:38pm

The M60 is a novelty in this game, nothing more.

The PKP is the best of the three at everything, with the M240B as a close second. (Reasons for this include the abysmal reload of the M240B, its insane Horizontal recoil, and the inability to reliably sustain fire under most circumstances, relative to the PKP)

It is not really a good idea to use the angled grip on the LMG's. In fact, do not even consider it, it will only make controlling recoil more difficult. Use either HBar+Ergo or Stubby+any barrel attachment (This is the better overall pick, but it is acceptable to use ergo only when paired with a heavy barrel)

The bipod is also a strong choice, but requires the user to become adept with the play style it demands.
This.

I have 7 service stars with the M60. Its not much but i can say its effectiveness quickly diminishes in many situations where the PKP/M240B shines.

Some saying its a tap firing machine. Well, really though, pkp and m240b are pretty much the same if not better for tap firing so i dont know where people get the idea that M60 is better with tap firing. Its fun to use though. Most times i just run it with iron sights since using any type of scope on it screws it up. Also that iron sight starts to become a real menace as you keep using it. They really gotta drop the iron sights from the scopes so it can actually be viable to use a damn scope on the thing...

But yeah, its a good gun but just not as better as the other heavy LMGs.