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Monday, April 7th 2014, 1:37pm

So what's the deal with SCAR-H and ACE 52?

They are banned on ESL. As far as I understood from the forum discussion there people on the receiving end of these guns often perceive their deaths as one-hit kills. Is it true or just a ESL superstition? Should I ditch ACE 23 and use one of them or do I need to be l33t pr0 and be able to reliably land headshots to get any advantage?

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Monday, April 7th 2014, 1:49pm

Superstition... Also their logic behind ban is beyond me. Have they also banned Aek and famas?

They have their uses. Scar-h is a headshot machine and favored by headglitchers. Ace 52 is and allkit weapon with better hipfire than scar.
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Monday, April 7th 2014, 2:00pm

Say screw it, keep using them, and ride a motorcycle over their flower garden to show how much of rebel you are.
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Thursday, April 10th 2014, 11:50pm

Well... probably for the same reason the L85 was banned in BF3... IT WAS REALLY GOOD. Even after they fixed the spread increase issue (i'm pretty sure it had a bug where it shot like a laser beam with almost no spread inc.) it remained banned because... M16A3 fanboys really. Those leagues try to turn BF into CS which it isn't... They should realy just find a different game to play (ARMA? CS 1.6?)

PS: Sounds like they're just trying to remove the higher damage model weapons from rotation... Can't wrap my head around it.
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Thursday, April 10th 2014, 11:54pm

We were playing a BF3 pug yesterday, and I was using the AN. Apparently it's banned because of macro users.

Anyways, the SCARH and ACE52 ban is stupid.
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Thursday, April 10th 2014, 11:58pm

ESL is composed of idiots who don't understand how the game works. Don't listen to them, ACE 52 and SCAR-H are good, but not OP at all, they don't even have the potential to be OP as long as Body Armor exists.
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Friday, April 11th 2014, 5:42am

"Competitive" BF4 is a fucking joke anyway. Who in their right mind would want to play a dice rolling simulator as a competitive game?

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Friday, April 11th 2014, 9:15am

Who in their right mind would want to play a dice rolling simulator as a competitive game?

Pun intended?

they don't even have the potential to be OP as long as Body Armor exists.

Are you talking about perk trees? You know, the ones that never work?

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Friday, April 11th 2014, 12:30pm

Has no one thought of simply referring to this thread about the exact same topic? SCAR-H and ACE 52 - OP?

Most important message to take away from that thread: lolesl
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Friday, April 11th 2014, 4:55pm

they don't even have the potential to be OP as long as Body Armor exists.

Are you talking about perk trees? You know, the ones that never work?

Just like how we assume an "infinitely skilled" player for the sake of comparison, I assume a functional game also.
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