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Saturday, February 6th 2016, 10:22am

Wait, is this assuming I am only firing six bullets per target and never missing?

Well, if you're bipodded up like you said, with the buffs that bipods confer to you, you should be able to land the first 6 shots of your burst within 100m, thus securing the kill. Shooting up to BTK is a fairly standard practice I think.

In that case, you kill a split-second later with the Type-88. No big deal IMO.

If not bipodded, on the other hand, then you'd know that the Type-88 is WAY easier to handle than the MG4 / M249. Shooting a 6RB, you also have a WAY better hitrate (thus better damage, thus better DPS) due to better H-Recoil and SIPS. With better SIPS and SDec, you can also engage the next target faster.


I asked because it isn't very often that a target at 100m sits perfectly still and allows themselves to be shot 6 times. Sometimes the whole first burst hits but given the way soldiers move in this game and the need to lead targets, I generally have to fire far more shots than that. I agree that off the bipod the Type 88 is obviously far better except at very close ranges.

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Saturday, February 6th 2016, 10:55am

Sometimes the whole first burst hits but given the way soldiers move in this game and the need to lead targets, I generally have to fire far more shots than that.

The Type-88 has higher Velocity so it is easier to lead / shoot deflection than M249 / MG4? :P

Okay, maybe I better stop now, because I don't have... *checks Battlelog* ...yep, I don't have a SINGLE KILL with the Type-88 in BF4. I guess that makes me a "script kiddie" in the purest sense, just talking from stats and spreadsheets :S

Just trying to get across the point that 100RPM in BF4 doesn't mean much to damage output, but means a LOT in terms of SIPS / SDec / Recoil.

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Saturday, February 6th 2016, 4:03pm

Sometimes the whole first burst hits but given the way soldiers move in this game and the need to lead targets, I generally have to fire far more shots than that.

The Type-88 has higher Velocity so it is easier to lead / shoot deflection than M249 / MG4? :P

Okay, maybe I better stop now, because I don't have... *checks Battlelog* ...yep, I don't have a SINGLE KILL with the Type-88 in BF4. I guess that makes me a "script kiddie" in the purest sense, just talking from stats and spreadsheets :S

Just trying to get across the point that 100RPM in BF4 doesn't mean much to damage output, but means a LOT in terms of SIPS / SDec / Recoil.


I still prefer the Type-88 overall but from experience I can't deny that the 800 rpm lmgs are better for taking on groups on the bipod where you really need to kill fast. The AWS also falls into this camp.

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Saturday, February 6th 2016, 5:36pm

Personal preference basically, nearly all weapons are viable in BF4 astoundingly. If you put a gun to my head something like SCAR-H, UMP-9, RPK, and SR338, for each primary weapon class would be my choices.

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Saturday, February 6th 2016, 6:40pm

Best all class: Hawk 12G .

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Wednesday, February 10th 2016, 6:32pm

Well i use almost all guns in the game because i love variety. ill give different bests for me for different situations

ASSAULT
wide open - SAR 21
Varying distances - ACE 23
CQC - AEK
my favorite - M416

ENGINEER pdws
Wide open - dont use pdws
Varying distances - UMP 9
CQC - CZ 301 (whatever the 1000 round is called)
my favorite - MPX

SUPPORT
Wide open - U100 or RPK12
varying distances - QBB 95 or RPK74m
CQC - mg4/m249
my favorite - L86A2 and QBB 95

RECON
Wide open - m98 (bullet velocity)
Varying distances - Gol magnum
CQC - CS5 or M40
my favorite - SV98

DMRs
Wide open - mk11
varying distances - QBU
CQC - SKS
my favorite - SVD

Carbins
Wide open - AK5C
varying distances - AK5C
CQC - MTAR
my favorite - AK5C or SG553

I HATE SHOTGUNS

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Wednesday, February 10th 2016, 7:11pm

Wide open - m98 (bullet velocity)

but both the cs-lr4 and the jng 90 have higher velocities...
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Headshots / kill percentage RANK:25947 TOP:13%
MVP ribbons RANK:18824 TOP:11%

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Friday, February 12th 2016, 3:25pm

Wide open - m98 (bullet velocity)

but both the cs-lr4 and the jng 90 have higher velocities...
yes but the m98 has a longer range damage model. allowing for easier assist kills for teammates on contact with enemy without killing. also, the bullet velocity of JNG and CS-LR4 are only 3% faster....3% is nothing. RPM is only 1 and 4 RPM faster for jng and cs-lr4 respectively. also doesn't make them better. m98 has better damage model, nearly identical RPM and bullet velocity, it's better

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Friday, February 12th 2016, 3:26pm

i wasn't saying if it was better or worse, i was just pointing at the fact you said(presumably) that it has the best velocity, but it doesn't, that's all.
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bf4
on 13/05/2016
23rd M320FB user on pc(13/05/16)
rush mode score RANK:2794 TOP:2% OUT OF:215398
obliteration mode scoreRANK:994 TOP:1% OUT OF:159466
handgun medals RANK:2236 TOP:2% OUT OF:143874
longest headshot RANK:9512 TOP:4% OUT OF:257589
recon score RANK:10871 TOP:4% OUT OF:274899
general score per minute RANK:10016 TOP:4% OUT OF:294774

bf3
31/3/2012 4:58:

Headshot distance RANK:493* TOP:0%
Revives per assault minute RANK: 6019 TOP: 3%
Headshots / kill percentage RANK:25947 TOP:13%
MVP ribbons RANK:18824 TOP:11%

*= 6 if we not count the EOD BOT headshots

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Friday, February 12th 2016, 3:35pm

Ah well no it was just meant to point out it has a high bullet velocity, didn't feel the need to point out factors making it better than other snipers.