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Monday, April 13th 2015, 6:04pm

Why no bump of 75 BA MinDmg? "Assist Counts as Kill" you know! 100 MaxDmg is just to give BAs at least some 'edge' of survivability in surprising CQB fights.
because in hardcore, you have 60 health. You could hit someone anywhere at any distance, Defensive Perk Set or not and it'd still be a OHK.

For comparison, go play BF3 Hardcore with a sniper rifle -- it's not hard at all.
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Monday, April 13th 2015, 6:07pm

If thats the only reason, then Hardcore has to set health to 80 and we are done. Problem solved.
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Monday, April 13th 2015, 6:43pm

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If thats the only reason, then Hardcore has to set health to 80 and we are done. Problem solved.

Heh. That's funny.

Hardcore players will shit their pants seeing this

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Monday, April 13th 2015, 7:32pm

If thats the only reason, then Hardcore has to set health to 80 and we are done. Problem solved.


Yeah how about GTFO, that sounds good to me.

BA min to 60 would be fine, you'd still be able to stop 1HKs with Defensive spec.
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Monday, April 13th 2015, 8:13pm

The thing is: Sniper Rifles are already bad at close range. Like I said. They rarely get a OHK. Like I said. A reverse damage model would change close to nothing about the "OP" nature of Bolt Actions. I still finish off my kills with my pistol or I get that headshot. Where we came from? The Straight Pull Bolt bug which limits Sniper RIfles in an unbelievable way for both close and long range. Where we are now? Being pissed about each other because of different definitions of skill and aggressive recons. Why? Because many argued "mimimi pick the right weapon for the right engagements" and I had to defend both the playstyle and why the bug is misplaced. Among that, a discussion about a reversed damage model which does nothing to solve the problem. The bugged straight pull bolt. It would help making BAs less mediocre at long ranges. Boosted velocities would to sth similar.

I don't even know what to say anymore at this point. I can't believe how you can defend a fucking bug.

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Monday, April 13th 2015, 8:44pm

If thats the only reason, then Hardcore has to set health to 80 and we are done. Problem solved.


Yeah how about GTFO, that sounds good to me.

BA min to 60 would be fine, you'd still be able to stop 1HKs with Defensive spec.


:D Sry, but I had to smile simply due to the fact, that sb got mad about that nonsense I wrote. Ofc changing health is not a solution. It just makes things worse somewhere else.

Which makes me even more smile is the fact that you want to raise BA min to 60, which makes a OHK again, so you might as well go with the 75 MinDmg. Using Body Armor to avoid 1HK at any Sniper Distance is not the way it was designed as far as I know and 1HK at extreme ranges is a unique stat of Pick-Ups only.
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Monday, April 13th 2015, 9:09pm

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I think your "bug" was mentioned in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofzNEvtVJeU


Yeah, this is a Sgt Enigma's video and as much as I don't like his voice I think he presented this "mechanic" pretty good. It is mentioned something around 0:35. I haven't watched this video to the end because I don't care about his opinion about it.

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Monday, April 13th 2015, 9:29pm

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Monday, April 13th 2015, 9:58pm

Why no bump of 75 BA MinDmg? "Assist Counts as Kill" you know! 100 MaxDmg is just to give BAs at least some 'edge' of survivability in surprising CQB fights.


Because Hardcore


An acceptable middle ground, instead of OHK chest shots at range, would be a damage model that nets Sniper Rifles Assist Counts As Kills at long range, so over 75.

This would be a very fair balance between the balanced but unrewarding 2HKs and probably overpowered and annoying OHKs.
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Monday, April 13th 2015, 10:05pm

The average sniper needs all the help it can get in HC. OHK @ most ranges or bust.