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Wednesday, June 4th 2014, 11:03am

BF4 Deployment Times (repost + visualization)

I caught this "deployment times table" some time ago: the original post by Frankelstner is here!. I'm reposting it here because quite a few discussions refer to deployment times and do so without numbers (see green spoiler). I also added new weapons per info from NoctyrneSAGA and arranged these to a sorted table for clarity/convenience (see yellow spoiler).

Deployment time is the time that it takes to get your gun ready to shoot after sprint-run transition or after switching between guns/gadgets.

As a side note, deployment time is the foremost playstyle-defining factor for LMGs because after sprinting, throwing down ammo, or switching back from XM25, it takes a whopping 1.25-1.3 s for you to be able to shoot the first bullet from hip (then then add the ADS time for hip-ads transition). For most ARs and carbines the deployment time is 0.67 s.

BF4 Deployment Times

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DeployTime retrieved as follows:
	Ignore all files with primary instance not of type SoldierWeaponBlueprint.
	Denote accessing fields with . and use => to indicate following a reference to another instance.
	Retrieve: SoldierWeaponBlueprint.$.Object => SoldierWeaponData.$.WeaponFiring => WeaponFiringData.DeployTime
	Attachments are not considered. AltDeployTime is a constant 2.0 for the majority of weapons and is not included here.

Filename vs DeployTime:

remington870mcs 0.72
a91 0.67
acr 0.67
aek971 0.67
ak12 0.67
ak5c 0.67
aku12 0.67
amr2 1.0
amr2_cqb 1.0
amr2_med 1.0
cbj-ms 0.67
cs-lr4 0.92
cz75 0.6
cz805 0.75
dbv12 0.67
famas 0.67
fn57 0.6
fy-js 0.92
g36c 0.67
galilace 0.67
galilace23 0.67
galilace52 0.67
galilace53 0.75
glock18 0.75
hawk 0.67
hk45c 0.6
jng90 0.92
js2 0.67
js2_sp_squad 0.67
lsat 1.0
m1014 0.68
m136 0.8
m16a4 0.67
m1911 0.65
m200 0.92
m240 1.25
m249 1.3
m39ebr 1.1
m40a5 0.92
m416 0.67
m4a1 0.67
m82a3 1.0
m82a3_cqb 1.0
m82a3_med 1.0
m82a3_sp 1.0
m9 0.6
m93r 0.7
magpulpdr 0.67
mg4 1.3
mk11 0.93
m98b 0.95
mp412rex 0.72
mp443 0.6
mx4 0.67
p226 0.6
p90 0.67
pecheneg 1.35
pp2000 0.62
qbb95 0.85
qbb95_sp_squad 0.85
qbs09 0.72
qbu88 0.85
qbz951 0.67
qsz92 0.62
rfb 0.9
rpk12 0.85
saiga_20k 0.67
sar21 0.67
scar-h 0.78
scar-hsv 0.78
scorpion 0.75
scoutelite 0.8
serbushorty 0.6
sg553lb 0.67
sks 0.65
spas12 0.72
srs 0.85
steyraug 0.67
sv98 0.85
svd12 0.8
taurus44 0.62
type88 1.2
type88_sp_squad 1.2
type95b 0.67
ultimax 1.3
ump45 0.75
ump9 0.7
usas-12 0.75
usas-12_nightvision 0.75
usas-12_sp 0.75
utas 0.68
weaponunarmed 2.0
l85a2 0.8
l96a1 0.92
mp7 0.54
mtar21 0.67
rpk-74 0.9
AS VAL 0.8
DAO-12 0.85 (buckshot, other shells 0.75)
F2000 0.8
GOL 0.92
M60E4 1.25
AR-160 0.78
AWS 0.95
SR2 0.7
SR-338 0.92
SW40 0.7
Shield 0.62
Bulldog 1.1
CS5 0.92
Deagle 0.62
MPX 0.7
Unica6 0.72
M136 0.8
Javelin 1.0
Stinger 1.9
Pie 1.1
RPG-7 1.2
IGLA 1.3
SMAW 1.25
SRAW 1.25
HVM-II 1.9


Sorted deployment times and weapon names in a table



Notes:
* DAO-12 has 0.85 s deployment time only with buckshot, for other shells it is 0.75.

** Note that the deployment time is different from the time to ADS: some ADS times mapped by Miffyli can be found HERE.
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This post has been edited 16 times, last edit by "3VerstsNorth" (Jun 5th 2014, 11:48am) with the following reason: Original post found and linked. First post largely rewritten. Two sets of additional stats (new guns + launchers) from NoctyrneSAGA also included.


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Wednesday, June 4th 2014, 9:13pm

MP7 has a really nice deploy time; never noticed that before.

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Wednesday, June 4th 2014, 9:19pm

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Wednesday, June 4th 2014, 9:50pm

FYI, I added to the original post a sorted table where the gun groups per deployment time are easier to see, check it out.

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Wednesday, June 4th 2014, 9:54pm

for extra quick switching loadout : CZ + PP200
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I'm a battlefield player, good sir. I don't play metro.

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As a good guy that don't want to use overly glitched weapons, I'll quit using the MTAR and switch to the ACWR until it's fixed

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Wednesday, June 4th 2014, 10:00pm

I'm fairly sure this was from Frankelstner a while ago :c)

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Wednesday, June 4th 2014, 10:07pm

AS VAL 0.8

DAO-12 0.85 using BUCKSHOT, 0.75 everything else

F2000 0.8

GOL 0.92

M60E4 1.25



AR-160 0.78

AWS 0.95

SR2 0.7

SR-338 0.92

SW40 0.7



Shield 0.62

Bulldog 1.1

CS5 0.92

Deagle 0.62

MPX 0.7

Unica 6 0.72


The DAO-12 is slightly funky. I'll look into it more but these were pulled from the sections Frank listed above so they should be correct.
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Wednesday, June 4th 2014, 10:29pm

Just wondering, how come this isn't on the official weapon charts? Or maybe I just over looked it?

Also, what does "squad" mean? most of the chinese guns seem to have it.

Very informative - thanks man!

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Wednesday, June 4th 2014, 10:33pm

Just wondering, how come this isn't on the official weapon charts? Or maybe I just over looked it?

Also, what does "squad" mean? most of the chinese guns seem to have it.

Very informative - thanks man!


Because it's not something people pay attention to.

Hell, the BF3 charts used to tell us what bullet was used. now the BF4 charts don't.

Also, I'm pretty sure the _squad thing is for singleplayer.

Take for example the JS2. The _squad version lists that it uses a "SP_Squad_PDW_Carbine_AR_bullet"

Suppression is 105-105 over a distance of 10m-50m and a damage model of 12.5-2.3 over 9m-12m.
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