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Thursday, March 27th 2014, 9:33am

Moving ADS spread values

The formula:

ActualMoveMinSpread = ((MoveMinSpread - BaseMinSpread * [stationary spread mods]) * [moving spread mods]) + BaseMinSpread * [stationary spread mods],


[stationary spread mods] = { heavy barrel, bullpup modifier }
[moving spread mods] = { ADS_speed_mult , MoveBullpupModifier (1/0.75), heavy barrel (1/0.67), ergo (1/0.5) }

where ADS_speed_mult:
0.5*1.0 - forward normal
0.5*0.75 - strafing/backwards normal
0.75*1.0 - forward bullpup
0.75*0.75 - strafing/backwards bullpup



- thanks at the guys in the one heavy barrel thread for the formula and Maveco for provided much needed info

* for PDWs, bullpup refers to PDW-R and P90, which have a vertical grip integrated and therefore can't be naked
* Spectre has made a similar list which includes DMRs, pistols and shotguns: Click (may need to be updated)
Moving ADS spread values

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Thursday, March 27th 2014, 9:34am

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ASSAULT RIFLES	
	
Forward	
HB + E	0,287
HB	0,475
E	0,400
Naked	0,600
	
Strafing	
HB + E	0,241
HB	0,381
E	0,350
Naked	0,500
	
Bullpup 75% Forward	
HB + E	0,330
HB	0,535
E	0,461
Naked	0,672
	
Bullpup 75% Strafiing	
HB + E	0,279
HB	0,432
E	0,408
Naked	0,566
	
Bullpup 50% Forward	
HB + E	0,262
HB	0,398
E	0,391
Naked	0,531
	
Bullpup 50% Strafing	
HB + E	0,227
HB	0,330
E	0,355
Naked	0,461
	
-------------------------------------	
CARBINES	
	
Forward	
HB + E	0,285
HB	0,421
E	0,425
Naked	0,550
	
Strafing	
HB + E	0,252
HB	0,353
E	0,394
Naked	0,488
	
Bullpup 75% Forward	
HB + E	0,306
HB	0,437
E	0,463
Naked	0,576
	
Bullpup 75% Strafiing	
HB + E	0,273
HB	0,371
E	0,435
Naked	0,520
	
Bullpup 50% Forward	
HB + E	0,262
HB	0,349
E	0,425
Naked	0,501
	
Bullpup 50% Strafing	
HB + E	0,240
HB	0,306
E	0,407
Naked	0,463
	
-------------------------------------	
PERSONAL DEFENSE WEAPONS	
	
Forward	
HB + E	0,325
HB	0,450
E	0,475
Naked	0,550
	
Strafing	
HB + E	0,294
HB	0,387
E	0,456
Naked	0,513
	
Bullpup 75% Forward	
HB + E	0,298
HB	0,371
E	0,485
	
Bullpup 75% Strafing	
HB + E	0,280
HB	0,335
E	0,476
	
Bullpup 50% Forward	
HB + E	0,274
HB	0,323
E	0,473
	
Bullpup 50% Strafing	
HB + E	0,262
HB	0,298
E	0,468
	
-------------------------------------	
LIGHT MACHINE GUNS	
	
Forward Belt-fed	
HB + E	0,535
HB	0,921
E	0,725
Naked	1,150
	
Strafing Belt-fed	
HB + E	0,439
HB	0,728
E	0,619
Naked	0,938
	
Forward Mag-fed	
HB + E	0,392
HB	0,683
E	0,525
Naked	0,850
	
Strafing Mag-fed	
HB + E	0,319
HB	0,537
E	0,444
Naked	0,688
	
Bullpup 75% Forward	
HB + E	0,447
HB	0,769
E	0,602
Naked	0,953
	
Bullpup 75% Strafiing	
HB + E	0,367
HB	0,608
E	0,514
Naked	0,777
	
Bullpup 50% Forward	
HB + E	0,340
HB	0,555
E	0,484
Naked	0,719
	
Bullpup 50% Strafing	
HB + E	0,286
HB	0,447
E	0,426
Naked	0,602
Moving ADS spread values

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As a main hater on this forum, I say no, it's not worth it.
I have been playing Battlefield since 1942 (the original PC game, not the year).
now I'd jerk off a hobo
With a compensator and angled grip I click people to death like I was playing diablo.
AKU-12 stomps it in the nuts and posts the video to WorldStarHipHop.

This post has been edited 8 times, last edit by "WoopsyYaya" (Oct 31st 2014, 10:41pm)


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Thursday, March 27th 2014, 5:15pm

Awesome list. Thx. I've been looking for this. You'll get rep as soon as someone confirms your calculations.
2 Things:
1) It's carbine, not carabine (guess the german ist strong with this one :D)
2) You call all PDWs PDW-R, which is only one of them. At least I think you meant PDWs in general.

In my opinion such a list needs to be stickied or be represented on the stats page in some way.

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Thursday, March 27th 2014, 5:31pm

Awesome list. Thx. I've been looking for this. You'll get rep as soon as someone confirms your calculations.

His calculations are correct. The only value he's missing is spread for strafing.

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Thursday, March 27th 2014, 5:37pm

1) It's carbine, not carabine (guess the german ist strong with this one )
2) You call all PDWs PDW-R, which is only one of them. At least I think you meant PDWs in general.
thanks, both edited :P
spread for strafing.
hm...wait, moving ADS spread is not strafing spread? I was under the impression moving means any direction whilst ADS, or do you mean something else?
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now I'd jerk off a hobo
With a compensator and angled grip I click people to death like I was playing diablo.
AKU-12 stomps it in the nuts and posts the video to WorldStarHipHop.

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Thursday, March 27th 2014, 5:40pm

Awesome list. Thx. I've been looking for this. You'll get rep as soon as someone confirms your calculations.

His calculations are correct. The only value he's missing is spread for strafing.

Is there something different when strafing? I thought that IS moving spread. Or is it a difference in movespeed and thus changing one of the multipliers?

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Thursday, March 27th 2014, 5:42pm

Very useful! :thumbup:

For LMGs you should still use the 2.0 as "min moving spread" because the actual min will be below max spread when modifiers are applied.
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Thursday, March 27th 2014, 6:22pm

The speed with which you move sideways is smaller than the speed with which you move forward (0.75). That affects the spread values.

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Thursday, March 27th 2014, 6:34pm

The speed with which you move sideways is smaller than the speed with which you move forward (0.75). That affects the spread values.
I see! Thanks, didn't realise that there were different moving speeds. I'll edit to say that this is for moving sideways. The speed factor used is 0.5.
What's the speed value for moving backwards?


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Congratz! :thumbup:
For LMGs you should still use the 2.0 as "min moving spread" because the actual min will be below max spread when modifiers are applied.
Ok, thanks! I'll add it later tonight.
Damn why does it have to be so confusing?
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As a main hater on this forum, I say no, it's not worth it.
I have been playing Battlefield since 1942 (the original PC game, not the year).
now I'd jerk off a hobo
With a compensator and angled grip I click people to death like I was playing diablo.
AKU-12 stomps it in the nuts and posts the video to WorldStarHipHop.