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I can do quite fine with any of the DMRs in BF3 in CQ, just slap on a laser and spam... Of course the biggest problem is getting the kill within the 10 round mag, which is bypassed in BF4. Because of this I think it would be best to keep the CQ performance poor.I do not agree with making the weapons a 1 hit kill up close, under any circumstances. Spamming in CQ is enough of a problem with the already high torso damage, and a 1 hit headshot would just add more of a luck factor and worsen the probem. The problem lies in the fact that they are too weak at long range.
Shotguns obtain a one hit kill ability in close quarters and all Bolt Action Rifles can one shot headshot at any range (excluding the Scout Elite and FY-JS); simply an observation.
BF3's DMRs multipliers operated ideally. No one ever dared deem a DMR "overpowered" since they were semi-automatic and required some degree of skill applied (SKS could have surfaced as an exception). Now that the damage has been reduced and damage multipliers removed, their specific role has been compromised. Allotting them Bolt-Action levels of velocity could alleviate one issue, but it ignores another.
To maintain the integrity of this thread I am going to cease from posting a rebuttal to a future reply. We'll just have to accept that we perceive the situation from different angles.
Finesse
You do not have it.
This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Nyth" (Dec 9th 2013, 5:59am)
+1I think the problem was that dice thought that the DMRs were OP overall in BF3 (people whine about them a lot), but they misread the bitching and whining, thinking that they were op under most circumstances. Rather the problem was the high CQ performance and not the long range performance. They probably nerfed the long range performance to reduce the power of them overall, but instead of balancing the weapon made the CQ balanced, but the mid-long range very underwhelming.
darn I wrote a whole paragraph and deleted itShotguns obtain a one hit kill ability in close quarters and all Bolt Action Rifles can one shot headshot at any range (excluding the Scout Elite and FY-JS); simply an observation.
agreed, although with the new China Rising maps, DMRs may see more useThink Bazaar alley; Metro tunnels; Seine streets; Caspian Hilltop.
Mapdesign in BF4 is different.
As a main hater on this forum, I say no, it's not worth it.
I have been playing Battlefield since 1942 (the original PC game, not the year).
now I'd jerk off a hobo
With a compensator and angled grip I click people to death like I was playing diablo.
AKU-12 stomps it in the nuts and posts the video to WorldStarHipHop.
All kit weapons should not be great all around weapons like ARs, instead they should be more specialized, the DMRs are a great example as were the BF3 PDWs.
Some people claim that the fact that they're all-kit should prevent them from being 50 damage. That's pretty much admitting that all kit-weapons should be inferior to class-specific weapons. But since carbines (a.k.a. baby ARs) exist, that's not even the case already. They need that damage to reward marksmen for being marksmen.
Finesse
You do not have it.
All kit weapons should not be great all around weapons like ARs, instead they should be more specialized, the DMRs are a great example as were the BF3 PDWs.
Some people claim that the fact that they're all-kit should prevent them from being 50 damage. That's pretty much admitting that all kit-weapons should be inferior to class-specific weapons. But since carbines (a.k.a. baby ARs) exist, that's not even the case already. They need that damage to reward marksmen for being marksmen.
Of course, this ignores the non-constant cross-sectional first moment of area across the chest as well as non-constant material properties of the boob; it would be difficult to perform a more detailed analysis (as in, I'd have to have a shape function AND I'd need to derive a function for elastic modulus as a function of lateral breast coordinate) but whatever. It's 2am and I'm lazy.
I always believed science should be very hands on experience.
You should also answer this question I had posed in that thread: Would you be willing to pay your surgeon more if he was going to use a chainsaw for the opening incision of surgery? Clearly using a chainsaw isn't truly suited for surgery but that doesn't really matter. If he's "skilled" enough to be able to use the wrong tools of the trade, he should be rewarded for that skill right?
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