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Currently we have charts for Battlefield 3, Call of Duty: Black Ops 2, Medal of Honor: Warfighter and Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3

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Saturday, July 23rd 2016, 7:58pm

Just discovered this tool only now.
Tried seeing if I can update values in the weapondata.xml myself but wow. Don't even know where to start.
I just want stats about the M416, AEK and Ace-23 with Hbar, Comp. Stubby, Ergo attachments.

I surely don't know enough to figure out why it's not updating the weapon data.

Any ideas?

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Sunday, July 24th 2016, 3:15am

I manually edited the weapondata.xml and put in the updated data for the M416, ACE-23 and AEK and all their attachments.

I put in the data for these weapons as it's the weapons we use most often here in South Africa for competitive Battlefield.
With time I'll attempt to put in more weapon data.

I attached the xml for anyone that wants to use it.

***If anyone can double check the data that it's correct and let me know, it would be very much appreciated
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Friday, August 5th 2016, 3:44pm

Thank you very much, b1scu17.

I would gladly assist you in updating the data but I have absolutely no idea how it works. Besides, I think it would be less time consuming to figure out why the software does not update the data when you click the "Update from symthic.com" button.

Edit: Alright, I figured out how to edit the data... But damn, it is a lot of work, even the values for the attachments need to be updated.

Edit: I updated the data for the assault rifles. If more people are interested, I will add assault rifles from the DLCs. On a side note: I hate you Symthic people for not fixing the issue and thus making me do this. :P

Edit: The assault class is now complete. I am not sure whether I will update the other classes, it is pretty time consuming.
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Friday, July 14th 2017, 12:48pm

where could download Symplot V1.0.0? The link in" http://www.mediafire.com/download/ehpnp3…ot_LatestWIP.7z " is wrong.

Please tell me the last link,thank you very much! :thumbsup:

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Friday, July 14th 2017, 3:47pm

where could download Symplot V1.0.0? The link in" http://www.mediafire.com/download/ehpnp3…ot_LatestWIP.7z " is wrong.

Please tell me the last link,thank you very much! :thumbsup:


I think nobody develops this atm and the mechanics can be very outdated. Nevertheless I'll let this topic to stay open in case somebody has a link to share.
Links to users' thread list who have made analytical/statistical/mathematical/cool posts on Symthic:
  • 3VerstsNorth - Analysis of game mechanics in BF4 (tickrates, effects of tickrate, etc)
  • leptis - Analysis of shotguns, recoil, recoil control and air drag.
  • Veritable - Scoring of BF4/BF1 firearms in terms of usability, firing and other mechanics.
  • Miffyli - Random statistical analysis of BF4 battlereports/players and kill-distances. (list is cluttered with other threads).
Sorry if your name wasn't on the list, I honestly can't recall all names : ( . Nudge me if you want to be included

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Monday, July 24th 2017, 5:58am

RE: Symplot - v.1.0.0.0 - new WIP (05.02.14)!

this linck of the file has been removed,could you update it?
i want it,thanks~~ :D
I'm currently working on an improved version of Plotic for BF4, written in C#.

Features

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Custom Weapons and Attachments
2 custom weapons
2 custom barrel, underbarrel and accessory attachments that can be used by each Weapon


2 weapon slots
Set of various parameters such as weapon with attachments, stance, recoil compensation, scope and fire mode (full auto or burst).
The "compare weapons" option enables side-by-side comparison of these 2 slots.


Plot overlays
Allowing more precise comparison of the Plots of the 2 weapon slots. Available via the context menu of the plots.


Bullet drop chart
Shows bullet drop and damage as a function of the distance.


TTK chart
Shows time to kill (TTK) and bullets to kill (BTK) as a function of the distance.


Weapon comparison
Opens symthics comparison of the 2 weapon slots or the info pages of the weapons.


Weapon data
Displays the stats of all weapons in a handy grid.
Supports different filters (classes, weapon, DLC), sorting, grouping by classes and attachments.


Numerical benefits: get more info here from the author of these charts, Aenonar


Ballistic computer (BCPU)
Allows you to visualize the bullet drop and target size for all scopes and distances with one of the weapon slots.
Based on Ballistic Computer - Sights aiming reference from Aenonar


Misc.
  • Optional auto updating of all affected plots, charts and stats upon changing a settings option
  • Multiplot feature: save images of plots, TTK charts, bullet drop charts or all of them combined for 2 sets of weapon and attachments
  • Placeholder system allowing dynamic naming of plots, charts, etc.
  • Highly customizables colors, font sizes and plot parts
  • Option to update the weapon data via the symthic API, thus always up to date


Information
This is still work in progress, so Heatmaps are still missing and there might still be bugs/glitches present. Some weapon/attachment stats might be incorrect so if you note a mistake, please report it to me.
The latest WIP (work in progress) file is updated on an irregular basis and is basically a copy of my current progress with the next update of Symplot. This way you don't have to wait for the 'regular' update to try out new features and you can already give me feedback. This comes with a certain price though, the file is not 'polished' and may still contain bugs/glitches.


Latest WIP (05.02.14)
  • Fixed an error that messed the weapon data up when it was updated from symthic. Only affected users with a OS culture that uses the point as decimal limiter.

Older WIPs

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  • Fixed a crash when using more than 5 bullets per burst
  • You can now selected a custom delay between the shots of a burst (allows spread and recoil to decrease between the shots). The effective ROF with the current delay is displayed in render properties
  • You can now select between full auto and burst fire when plotting.[
  • Added information about the ratings used in the numerical benefits calculations
  • Numerical Benefit calculations now supports vertical and horizontal recoil and FSM compensation
  • The Info overlay now contains recoil compensation and render properties (pixel per degree, sight)
  • Fixed some stuff with the numerical value boxes, resulting in less start up time
  • Fixed errors with the grindlines when the center of the plot as noticably different from the default values
  • Fixed a bug with the TTK details overlay not displaying the correct TTK
  • Added option to export Numerical Benefit Data to a Excel (.csv file)
  • Added magnifier, IRNV, FLIR and high powered sight images made by Mofixil
  • Reworked Weapon Data tab, seperated update of data and UI (sorting, grouping, filter) and added overlay for data update
  • Replaced weapon comparison with links to symthic's comparison and weapon info (I'm still thinking about redoing Symplot's own comparison)
  • Rewrote many parts of the code
  • Redesigned some parts of the UI
  • No longer backwards compatible with BF3, solemnly focused on BF4
  • Added the option to retrieve the newest weapon and attachment stats from symthic.com
  • Added radial background
  • The Date/Time of the last web update of the weapon data is now shown
  • Redesigned Ballistic Computer, some sights are still missing though
  • Calculation of moving spread should be fixed now
  • Visuailizing the weapon's plot when aiming down a certain sight is now possible


Downloads
Latest WIP (mediafire.com)
BF3: Symplot - v.0.6.8


Requirements
Changelog

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v.0.6.8
  • Fixed G3A3 being an engineer weapon again
  • TTK, BTK and damage drop calculations now take the targeted bodypart into account
  • Symplot now uses the OS culture instead of en-US.
  • Increased the size of the plots on the weapon comparison tab
  • BCPU Modes changed: now allows to show drop marks and target height for selected distance simultaniously
  • BCPU now allows to display the target silhouette instead of the rectangle representing the target's height for the selected distance
  • Improved Plots & Charts: Now supports zooming with mouse wheel, zooming in with double clicking and dragging.

v.0.6.7
  • Unified grouping styles for all combo boxes and data grids
  • Improved Data Crawler resulting in a lot more info available (reload, ammo type, magsize, damage modifiers)

v.0.6.6
  • Fixed ADS Moving Min Spread Calculation, now takes ADS Moving Speed into account
  • Extended Weapon List to "Weapon Data" by adding the Attachment Combinations - Numerical Benefits charts from Aenonar
  • Added Ballistic Computer
  • Added ADS Moving Speed to weapon data
  • Added DLC Filter to Weapon Data
  • Added ADS Aiming Speed to Custom Weapons

v.0.6.5
  • Fixed hit rates not taking recoil compensation into account
  • Fixed TTK calculation (more info)
  • Fixed TTK and BTK not zooming in upon starting the program
  • Improved textboxes
  • Extended Custom Weapons/Attachements: 2nd Custom Weapon/Barrel Attachment/Underbarrel Attachment
  • Moved Custom Weapons into weapons comboboxes

v.0.6.4
  • Fixed M60E4 being named M60A4
  • Fixed the huge lag caused by zooming plots with a high amount of bursts (~10.000)
  • Reworked the placeholder system a bit
  • Improved sizing behaviour of text boxes in the "Saving" tab
  • Stance, suppression and recoil compensation can now be set indepently for the 2 weapon slots
  • Added overlay feature (access via context menu of the plots), allows more accurate bullet deviation comparison than the side by side comparison
  • Added Charts to Weapon Comparison
  • Added more subcategories to the Auto-Update: Plot, TTK Chart, Bullet Drop Chart, Weapon List
  • Added buttons to allow manual updating when auto updates are disabled

v.0.6.3
  • Fixed that less max range would be considered better on the weapon comparison
  • Fixed me mixing the L85A2's and L86A2's DLC origin up
  • Fixed crash when using the Custom Weapon as Weapon #1 / Weapon #2
  • Added DMG Info to weapon list
  • Added Horizontal Recoil Compensation
  • Added Attachment Adjustments and Attachment Availability Indicators to weapon list
  • The "default" attachments that all weapons have (none, custom barrel, custom underbarrel) are now created when starting the program rather than being loaded from weapondata.xml
  • Weapon Images have been downscaled to reduce the file size

v.0.6.2
  • Fixed L96 & L86A2 not being B2K weapons
  • Added Weapon comparison and Weapon list similar to the ones on symthic
  • Added Vertical Recoil and FSM Compensation
  • If you didn't specified a default folder for saving, you'll be asked to do so upon initiating an operation (Autosave, Multiplot) requiring it.

v.0.6.1
  • Fixed M16 missing suppression data
  • Added hitrates
  • Added Details Pop Up to TTK/Bullet Drop chart. Move your cursor on the chart to see the exact values at the selected point.
  • Added Option to toggle info text headline visibility
  • Added Option to customize the font sizes for the plot and chart texts
  • Added Recoil Preview (right click on Plot for weapon #1), it's more of a gimmick, as recoil decrease mechanics are still somewhat unkown.
v.0.6.0
  • Fixed missing stats for suppressors and heavy barrels
  • Fixed a bug causing Custom Attachments to not alter Min. Spread
  • Redone compare feature, now includes TTK and Drop Charts and allows you to select 2 independent weapon & attachment combos
  • Disabling auto updates now disables all auto updates (f.ex. Gridlines visiblity was still autoupdating)
  • Removed some dev-only attachments
  • Added Multiplot feature, allowing you to save a lot of plots/ttk charts/bullet drop charts in short time
  • Added auto update features to custom weapon
  • Added more placeholders
  • Added an about tab with credits and links
v.0.5.5
  • Added color customization for Plot, Drop Off Chart, TTK Chart
  • Added suppression
  • Added compare feature: displays 2 user chosen plots side by side, can be saved too (small text is hard to read for some reason).
  • Added expander allowing you to hide the plot options (left side), allows for greater zoom on compare feature
  • Added save all combined (plot, ttk & bullet drop chart)
v.0.5.4
  • Added Target Distance indicator to TTK Chart
  • Added Bullets to Kill graph to TTK Chart
  • Added slightely opaque background to the numbers on the graphs so that they're easier to read
  • If the selected target distance is greater than the enddistance of the damage drop, the TTK Chart will now use the target distance as max distance to plot
  • Added Bullet Drop Chart
  • Moved Damage Drop to Bullet Drop Chart
  • You can now save the TTK and Bullet & Damage Drop Charts
  • Added Title to TTK Chart (can be hidden)
  • You can now hide the axis labels on the TTK Chart
  • Added option to turn off auto-update (not on all things for now, but on most of them)
v.0.5.3
  • Added Bulletdrop marks and info to plot
  • Added Bulletdrop, TTK info and weapon stats to plot
  • You can now save the plot and autosave it upon plotting
v.0.5.2
  • Fixed negative H-Recoil crashing the program
  • Added custom barrerl/underbarrel attachments
  • Changed the implementation of the attachments, now allowing f.ex. pdws to equip silencer and laser sight
  • Extended Custom weapon stats (now supports different stances)
  • Slightly adjusted the program design (removed some unnecessary borders).
  • Moved custom weapon and attachment options to another tabcontrol to reduce vertical span of the options column
v.0.5.1
  • Fixed G3A3 being an engineer weapon
  • Fixed Display title chechbox also toggleing the plot visiblity
  • Added dmgdropoff graph to ttk chart
  • Added option to display Adjustments on the plot
  • TTK chart now uses the ttk settings instead of hardcoded values


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Monday, July 24th 2017, 10:29am

@BulletHermit

Sadly, as I said above, it seems like nobody is working on this piece of software and it has not been updated in ages.

I am going to lock this topic to avoid unnecessary necros from people asking to update the post. However if you have the newest version on your machine or so, please contact me and I will update this post with up-to-date link.
Links to users' thread list who have made analytical/statistical/mathematical/cool posts on Symthic:
  • 3VerstsNorth - Analysis of game mechanics in BF4 (tickrates, effects of tickrate, etc)
  • leptis - Analysis of shotguns, recoil, recoil control and air drag.
  • Veritable - Scoring of BF4/BF1 firearms in terms of usability, firing and other mechanics.
  • Miffyli - Random statistical analysis of BF4 battlereports/players and kill-distances. (list is cluttered with other threads).
Sorry if your name wasn't on the list, I honestly can't recall all names : ( . Nudge me if you want to be included