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Wednesday, January 29th 2014, 8:18pm

LOL. but wait, there's more! Figured out the conditions. With settings I am using it crashes whenever I run 6+ shots at a target distance of less than 25 meters. 5 shots is fine at any distance and it looks like 6+ shots is fine at anything over 25 meters. I had same issue when plot resolution was set to 650px, didn't play with anything else.

Edit: This is from the previous version, have not been able to try out the newest version yet, this may not be an issue with it.

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Whenever you get to adding new features, throw these onto your possibles list if they aren't there already:

Multiple bursts with delays - Tick a box to enable, enter in delay between bursts. Useful to see plot patterns when spread/recoil decrease are thrown into the mix.

Burst fire mode - With the FSM not impacting the first shot it would be useful to see plots of weapons firing in their burst fire mode.

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Wednesday, January 29th 2014, 8:27pm

I'll try to fix this asap and I've put your suggestions on my to do list.
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Thursday, January 30th 2014, 4:45am

i was just wondering if this could have been used,to understand better what sights you're going to use if dice don't fix them.

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Thursday, January 30th 2014, 6:31am

Apologies for becoming a PITA, just got new version and seem to be having trouble with plot results. Updated the stats from Symthic then ran this plot. Had a really wide distribution so I changed all the target and plot tab settings the same between versions but ended up with same result. Went back to prior version and downloaded newest stats (to see if that was issue) but plots look as I would expect.

Some change from new version broke plots???

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Thursday, January 30th 2014, 6:34am

Apologies for becoming a PITA, just got new version and seem to be having trouble with plot results. Updated the stats from Symthic then ran this plot. Had a really wide distribution so I changed all the target and plot tab settings the same between versions but ended up with same result. Went back to prior version and downloaded newest stats (to see if that was issue) but plots look as I would expect.

Some change from new version broke plots???

New Plot Result



Old Plot Result


Newest version settings.xml

max range:9300 meters
recoil up: 36

i don't use this program,but i think you just made a typo with the numbers or something.
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general score per minute RANK:10016 TOP:4% OUT OF:294774

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Headshot distance RANK:493* TOP:0%
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Headshots / kill percentage RANK:25947 TOP:13%
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Thursday, January 30th 2014, 8:17am

Thanks Kataklism, looks like you found the bug. Wasn't anything I manually entered, though. At first it looked like Symplot was downloading the data from Symthic and changing decimal points on some stat data. Comparing weapon data tab on Symplot to Symthic it looks like the incorrect data is more than just a decimal placement issue (AUG A3 recoil for example).

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Thursday, January 30th 2014, 8:22pm

@kataklism
Your link doesn't work for me, it just shows me the latest page of the thread (I think this is tied to the posts per page setting). Are you talking about the visual recoil of the sights?

@Dunkelschatten
I just tested this and I didn't get any screwed stats. So my guess would be that the symthic API is to blame.
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Thursday, January 30th 2014, 8:29pm

Sym API, at least now, gives out correct values.

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[{"WeapName":"GalilACE23","Ammo":"556x45mmNATO","BDrop":"15","EDmg":"18","TimeToLive":"1.5","DOEnd":"55",
"DOStart":"8","SDmg":"25","AmmoName":"5.56x45mmNATO","BlastDmg":null,"InnerBlastRadius":null,"BlastRadius":null,
"WeapShowName":"ACE23","Class":"1","InitialSpeed":"620","WeapCallName":"ACE_23","ReloadEmpty":"3.1",
"ReloadThrs":"0.8","ReloadLeft":"2.1","RoF":"770","MaxDistance":"930","MagSize":"31","InitialSpeed_Silencer":"330",
"BRoF":"770","HIPStandBaseMax":"7","HIPCrouchMoveMax":"7","ADSProneMoveMax":"1.5","HIPStandMoveMax":"7",
"ADSRecoilLeft":"0.15","ADSCrouchBaseMin":"0.2","HIPStandMoveSpreadInc":"0.1","HIPCrouchMoveSpreadDec":"15",
"ADSCrouchMoveMin":"1","HIPProneMoveMin":"2.5","HIPProneBaseSpreadDec":"15","HIPProneMoveMax":"7","ADSRecoilDec":"18",
"ADSStandMoveSpreadDec":"15","ADSProneBaseSpreadInc":"0.1","ADSCrouchMoveSpreadInc":"0.1","ADSProneMoveSpreadDec":"15",
"HIPCrouchBaseSpreadDec":"15","HIPProneBaseMin":"2","HIPProneBaseSpreadInc":"0.1","HIPStandBaseSpreadDec":"15",
"ADSProneBaseMax":"1.5","ADSCrouchMoveSpreadDec":"15","HIPRecoilLeft":"0.15","HIPRecoilUp":"0.36","ADSStandMoveSpreadInc":"0.1",
"HIPStandBaseMin":"3","ADSProneBaseMin":"0.2","ADSCrouchBaseMax":"1.5","HIPCrouchMoveSpreadInc":"0.1","ADSRecoilRight":"0.25",
"ADSStandMoveMin":"1","HIPRecoilDec":"18","ADSStandBaseSpreadInc":"0.1","ADSStandBaseMax":"1.5","ADSStandBaseSpreadDec":"15",
"ADSCrouchBaseSpreadDec":"15","HIPCrouchBaseMax":"7","HIPCrouchBaseMin":"2.5","ADSCrouchBaseSpreadInc":"0.1",
"ADSProneBaseSpreadDec":"15","ADSProneMoveSpreadInc":"0.1","ADSCrouchMoveMax":"1.5","ADSStandMoveMax":"1.5",
"HIPProneMoveSpreadDec":"15","ADSProneMoveMin":"1","HIPProneMoveSpreadInc":"0.1","ADSStandBaseMin":"0.2","HIPStandMoveMin":"3.5",
"FirstShotRecoilMul":"2","ADSRecoilUp":"0.36","HIPStandBaseSpreadInc":"0.1","HIPCrouchBaseSpreadInc":"0.1","HIPProneBaseMax":"7",
"HIPCrouchMoveMin":"3","HIPRecoilRight":"0.25","HIPStandMoveSpreadDec":"15","Existgrip_movingdispersion":"Yes",
"Existgrip_sprintrecovery":"Yes","Existbarrel_modchoke":"No","Existbarrel_suppressor":"Yes","Existbarrel_muzzlebrake":"Yes",
"Existbarrel_fullchoke":"No","Existbarrel_flashhider":"Yes","Existgrip_firstshotrecoil":"Yes","Existbarrel_compensator":"Yes",
"Existbipod_sniper":"No","Existaccesory_targetpointer":"Yes","Existbipod":"Yes","Existbarrel_heavy":"Yes","Existbipod_lmg":"No"}]
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Friday, January 31st 2014, 4:17am

@kataklism
Your link doesn't work for me, it just shows me the latest page of the thread (I think this is tied to the posts per page setting). Are you talking about the visual recoil of the sights?

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I just tested this and I didn't get any screwed stats. So my guess would be that the symthic API is to blame.

no,i'm talking of this(i'll quote so this time you can see by yourself what i mean)

so,i noticed that a lot(vasically all except pk-a) of the mid-powered sightsa have problems,and thus,i decided i should screencap every sight with and without bugs,this is the result(+hi-powered scopes with and without 14x because i thought,why not?)

bf4 mid-hi optics(no pk-a) - Imgur

for mid power scopes,the first image of a scope(from the left) is the bugged version.

the weapons used are

m200 intervention : acog,m145,40x/40x-14x,8x/8x-14x
sv98 : 20x/20x - 14x
cs-lr4 : jgm-4,prisma,6x/6x - 14x
jng-90 : prisma bug,7x/7x -14x,pso-1 bug
M40a5 : acog bug,m145 bug
m416 : jgm-4 bug,pso-1


don't know why it is like this though.


pk-a is not present because it seemed to never have been bugged in any way,and if it was bugged,it would have been harder t notice as all the mid-power scope apart from it have a black layer,while for the pk-a it seems only the center dot is like that,so even it is bugged,you won't notice it.



basically,different sights on different guns have different looks,and i wante to let someone knows and i find a way to use these images,but i don't know how useful can they be...
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longest headshot RANK:9512 TOP:4% OUT OF:257589
recon score RANK:10871 TOP:4% OUT OF:274899
general score per minute RANK:10016 TOP:4% OUT OF:294774

bf3
31/3/2012 4:58:

Headshot distance RANK:493* TOP:0%
Revives per assault minute RANK: 6019 TOP: 3%
Headshots / kill percentage RANK:25947 TOP:13%
MVP ribbons RANK:18824 TOP:11%

*= 6 if we not count the EOD BOT headshots

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Friday, January 31st 2014, 6:05am

@Dunkelschatten
I just tested this and I didn't get any screwed stats. So my guess would be that the symthic API is to blame.
Ok, did a bit of testing. After updating the data from Symthic.com the stats get wonky upon the reopening of Symplot after it has been closed.

My un-scientific method - After noticing the issue occurred after reopening Symplot I cut out some of the extra steps I had taken and did exactly as written below, no other changes:

Downloaded fresh Symplot and unpacked. Opened and ran a plot off the default data, checked weapon data tab - both looked good. Then clicked the update data button. Ran plots and checked weapon data tab again, looked the same (good). Closed program and reopened. Ran a plot and got the funky distribution, checked data tab and the issues mentioned in previous post were present.

At least I know I can use Symplot without issue so long as I don't update the data.