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Friday, June 22nd 2018, 3:40am

Is there any point in using dart on shotguns?

Buckshot does more damage, and even with defensive perk, buckshot still does more damage at all ranges! Buck does 5.6 damage post falloff. After the 0.85 defensive perk multiplier (for buckshot) it does 4.76 damage. That's still more than the dart's 4.2 damage. Same problem occurs in cqb even before falloff happens. So, why should one use flechettes? It appears that the damage just makes them worse at range and less forgiving in cqb.

Is there a significant accuracy bonus?
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Sunday, June 24th 2018, 11:52am

Flechettes have a 2.0 pellet cone while buckshot has 2.4. The general opinion seems to be that flechettes can be preferable if you're fine with them being less forgiving. As a minor bonus, they penetrate enemies and certain objects.
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Thursday, June 28th 2018, 3:11am

Flechettes have a 2.0 pellet cone while buckshot has 2.4. The general opinion seems to be that flechettes can be preferable if you're fine with them being less forgiving. As a minor bonus, they penetrate enemies and certain objects.
A .4 degree difference? That might be a lot on a gun that shoots one bullet per click, but on a shotgun that doesn't seem like much, especially considering buck always does more damage (ignoring accuracy) even with defensive perk. Is there any way for me to calculate the max 1 or 2 hit kill distance with either ammo type?


Also, do different shotguns have different accuracy levels?
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Saturday, June 30th 2018, 2:46pm

A .4 degree difference? That might be a lot on a gun that shoots one bullet per click, but on a shotgun that doesn't seem like much, especially considering buck always does more damage (ignoring accuracy) even with defensive perk. Is there any way for me to calculate the max 1 or 2 hit kill distance with either ammo type?

I read that it's high enough that flechette actually has a longer OHK distance than buckshot, but I can't find that post anymore.

These threads might help you.

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Also, do different shotguns have different accuracy levels?

Yes, see the Spread column here.
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BF4: Competitive Tank Launching

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Shitgun: Whoops did I spell that wrong? Nah, I don't believe so.

Anyone got any ideas about what the UGL Rail on the L86 is for? (13/04 Patch notes.)

XM25 can't mount, can it? Looking forward to my Underslung Ammo box!

Is there any way for anyone that doesn't have mod powers to know what the IE on 360 thread is? I feel so left out...

Nope. Deleted so only mods can see the contents. It has some... interesting stuff there... *squints @Riesig <.< *

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Saturday, June 30th 2018, 6:29pm


Quoted from "CitytheSurvivor"

Also, do different shotguns have different accuracy levels?

Yes, see the Spread column here.

Well ackschually...

Weapon spread can differ between shotguns and setups, but pellet spread/dispersion has been unified across all shotguns, and is now only dependent on ammunition type and choke selection.

Important distinction, thought it best to be crystal clear.
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I always believed science should be very hands on experience.

You should also answer this question I had posed in that thread: Would you be willing to pay your surgeon more if he was going to use a chainsaw for the opening incision of surgery? Clearly using a chainsaw isn't truly suited for surgery but that doesn't really matter. If he's "skilled" enough to be able to use the wrong tools of the trade, he should be rewarded for that skill right?