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Friday, May 20th 2016, 9:41am

... And how do I perform Ducky's Trick-Shots with a Controller ?

You know ducky made a new video. Ducky's Trickshots

Nice and all, but how do I perform them with a Controller ?

I basically have to crank up the Sensitivity by 100%, reduce ADS Sensitivity by 90%. So I could rotate that fast. And grow myself a new finger between my thumb and trigger finger, with which I could press the crouch button.

Did anyone realized these Trick-Jump-Shots (or whatever their real name is) on a controller?
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Friday, May 20th 2016, 9:52am

[insert pcmr laughter image here]

In theory most things that can be done on a KB & mouse should be able to be done on a controller, but practise is quite different it seems. I guess it's just the limited rotation speed and maneuverability on thumbsticks. Some L33T_MLG_QvikScopz could maybe do that (I have barely any experience with controllers on FPS games)
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Friday, May 20th 2016, 10:06am

I seem to be able to do it (inconsistently, but I've done it before).

As for crouching whilst shooting, change your controls such that R3 is crouch, and circle is melee. Or if you like resting your middle finger on the bumpers (which I personally don't), you can bind either L2 or R2 to crouch.
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How to ice an A-91

Next, wanna try adding a guy that you KNOW is bad, and just testing to see that? Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

PP-2000 added. Y'know, it's not that bad....

Yes, it comes in last so far, but that is mostly because I'm making it shoot at 100m ADS - Not Moving as one of the criteria. Even then, between 50-100m Not Moving, when you include Useability, it is only 1.37% worse than the MTAR-21. Within 50m then it even beats the A-91.

Have a look, vs. the A-91 Carbine:




Using it with Muzzle Brake and Compensator is a wash in terms of overall performance. Comp is SLIGHTLY more accurate, while MB is SLIGHTLY more easy to use. Their overall scores are basically tied, with MB just ahead. I guess either can be recommended.

But... You can't be counting for the fact that it takes 9 bullets to kill at "long" range... Don't you dare tell me my A-91 is worse than a 9 BTK 650 RPM mediocre PDW.

Also. Just go heavy barrel. The recoil is low enough.

Well, technically...

Comparing a PP2K with HB and an A-91 with comp and stubby (as you suggested in an earlier post), at 50m not moving, the A-91 is only better by 4 damage per hitrate. While at 75m and 100m, surprisingly the PP2K does better than the A-91 (I'm pretty damn surprised as well).

And 10m and 50m moving the PP2K also does more damage per hitrate than the A-91. At 25m the A-91 is only better by about half a bullet's damage as well.

In addition, the PP2K has a much larger mag size and substantially less recoil. And it looks hella awesome. So comparing the A-91 to a PDW is of some worth after all, as the PP2K is better (technically, not practically) than the A-91.

Mind blown.

I... I...

*cries in a corner*

Zer0Cod3x explained it very well. If you look at the raw numbers right here on Symthic Comparison, you can see how that happened:

A-91 vs PP-2000 | BF4 Weapon Comparison | Symthic

A-91's "23%" RPM advantage only afforded it 1 extra round.

Reload times are wash.

Velocities are wash.

V-Recoil are wash (and this is HBar on PP2k vs. A-91 without).

Hipfire and ADS - Moving are better on the PP2k, but it's a PDW and not the surprising part.

The surprising part is that, as equipped (and we see above that PP2k HBar has almost same V-Recoil as A-91 without HBar so why not?), the PDW performs better at 50 - 100m than a bloody Carbine. Why?

H-Recoil Spread, 0.525 vs. 0.45, advantage PP2k.

SIPS, 42% better on the PP2k.

And here is the most important part. ADS - Not Moving Spread, 0.35 vs. 0.2, 43% improvement.

Without HBar then of course the PP2k loses, which is why when I add all the attachments together for an Overall Ranking, it would slot below the A-91. Run HBar on it, though, then... I'm sorry

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Friday, May 20th 2016, 10:25am

46 hip, 70 ads here on PS4 and I can rotate no problem. Try jumping with your index finger or remap jump to a different button if it's uncomfortable.

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Friday, May 20th 2016, 10:33am

@Arquemann

I expected some PCMR respnse, but some people just dont like to play on PC. e.g. I have to deal with Hardware components and Idgaf about such stuff. However, Whenever I need to rely on the "Quick"Scope Auto Aim Assist, I always get let down. This thing is a little inconsistent.

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Yeah, I was able to do it on PS3 too. Not regularly but often enough. Still I dont really manage to do it on PS4 (There the Aim-Assist seems to be unreliable).

I currently have R3 to be the crouch stuff, but here is the thing with this:

* I need to push R3 while Aiming with R3, which is a tricky operation and I cant jump while doing so.
* I need to jump and Crouch, which suggests to use Circle for Crouch, but then I dont have the thumb to aim.

Tbh, the XBOX Elite Controller makes a lot of sense with its additional triggers for jump/crouch.
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Friday, May 20th 2016, 11:27am

Yeah, I was able to do it on PS3 too. Not regularly but often enough. Still I dont really manage to do it on PS4 (There the Aim-Assist seems to be unreliable).

I currently have R3 to be the crouch stuff, but here is the thing with this:

* I need to push R3 while Aiming with R3, which is a tricky operation and I cant jump while doing so.
* I need to jump and Crouch, which suggests to use Circle for Crouch, but then I dont have the thumb to aim.

Tbh, the XBOX Elite Controller makes a lot of sense with its additional triggers for jump/crouch.

Crouch Shot Video

From one of the best console infantry players I know.

So it's certainly possible to crouch with R3 and aim and shoot, now you've just got to apply it whilst jumping.

As stated in the video, Xbox Scuf/Elite controllers are probably ideal, but if you've got a standard controller, this is the next best thing.


As I stated before, you can always bind R2 to crouch like it was in BF3, and learn to keep your middle finger on the bumper.
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How to ice an A-91

Next, wanna try adding a guy that you KNOW is bad, and just testing to see that? Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

Example: PP-2000 (god I so wanna love this gun, and yet...)

PP-2000 added. Y'know, it's not that bad....

Yes, it comes in last so far, but that is mostly because I'm making it shoot at 100m ADS - Not Moving as one of the criteria. Even then, between 50-100m Not Moving, when you include Useability, it is only 1.37% worse than the MTAR-21. Within 50m then it even beats the A-91.

Have a look, vs. the A-91 Carbine:




Using it with Muzzle Brake and Compensator is a wash in terms of overall performance. Comp is SLIGHTLY more accurate, while MB is SLIGHTLY more easy to use. Their overall scores are basically tied, with MB just ahead. I guess either can be recommended.

But... You can't be counting for the fact that it takes 9 bullets to kill at "long" range... Don't you dare tell me my A-91 is worse than a 9 BTK 650 RPM mediocre PDW.

Also. Just go heavy barrel. The recoil is low enough.

Well, technically...

Comparing a PP2K with HB and an A-91 with comp and stubby (as you suggested in an earlier post), at 50m not moving, the A-91 is only better by 4 damage per hitrate. While at 75m and 100m, surprisingly the PP2K does better than the A-91 (I'm pretty damn surprised as well).

And 10m and 50m moving the PP2K also does more damage per hitrate than the A-91. At 25m the A-91 is only better by about half a bullet's damage as well.

In addition, the PP2K has a much larger mag size and substantially less recoil. And it looks hella awesome. So comparing the A-91 to a PDW is of some worth after all, as the PP2K is better (technically, not practically) than the A-91.

Mind blown.

I... I...

*cries in a corner*

Zer0Cod3x explained it very well. If you look at the raw numbers right here on Symthic Comparison, you can see how that happened:

A-91 vs PP-2000 | BF4 Weapon Comparison | Symthic

A-91's "23%" RPM advantage only afforded it 1 extra round.

Reload times are wash.

Velocities are wash.

V-Recoil are wash (and this is HBar on PP2k vs. A-91 without).

Hipfire and ADS - Moving are better on the PP2k, but it's a PDW and not the surprising part.

The surprising part is that, as equipped (and we see above that PP2k HBar has almost same V-Recoil as A-91 without HBar so why not?), the PDW performs better at 50 - 100m than a bloody Carbine. Why?

H-Recoil Spread, 0.525 vs. 0.45, advantage PP2k.

SIPS, 42% better on the PP2k.

And here is the most important part. ADS - Not Moving Spread, 0.35 vs. 0.2, 43% improvement.

Without HBar then of course the PP2k loses, which is why when I add all the attachments together for an Overall Ranking, it would slot below the A-91. Run HBar on it, though, then... I'm sorry

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But...
Wha...
I AM HAVING AN EXISTENTIAL CRISIS IN SCHOOL BECAUSE OF YOU TWO.

FUCK YOU NERDS AND YOUR FANCY NUMBERS

SEXY RUSSIAN BULLPUPS FTW.

In all seriousness, thank you both so much for giving me the numbers. I still don't want to accept them. You have led the horse to water. I still need to drink.


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Friday, May 20th 2016, 5:41pm

If you're not already on 100% sensitivity you're gonna get ruined in CQB by people who do. Crank it up and get used to it. Also turn off aim assist. It's not helping you aim, it's preventing you from ever learning how to aim. If you have any doubt of that, turn it off and run pistol only. You'll see.

Avoid the elite controller with it's broken thumbstick sensitivity.

Run veteran controls so right stick is crouch. B to crouch is for CoD.

You can do these shots on controller easy :)

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Friday, May 20th 2016, 10:53pm

If you're not already on 100% sensitivity you're gonna get ruined in CQB by people who do. Crank it up and get used to it. Also turn off aim assist. It's not helping you aim, it's preventing you from ever learning how to aim. If you have any doubt of that, turn it off and run pistol only. You'll see.

Avoid the elite controller with it's broken thumbstick sensitivity.

Run veteran controls so right stick is crouch. B to crouch is for CoD.

You can do these shots on controller easy :)

i don't play on console since 2013 and have never tried a jump shot(there was no point in doing it back when i played) but i don't see how it is a problem to do, doesn't seem harder than aim and shooting while planting an m-com(on ps3 controller) or doing a dolphin dive.
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Saturday, May 21st 2016, 12:03am

shooting while planting an m-com


You manage to do this (effectively)?

When I attempt it my aiming is very jerky due to moving the stick with the middle of my thumb, while the tip holds down the button arming the Mcom.

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