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Monday, July 21st 2014, 11:12pm

Does the m60 really need the hb? It feels ... perfect with stubby and laser. Heck dont even really need the stubby Its only on because i felt strange running without an attachment


Not really but if you can handle the recoil (easier than you'd think with the fire rate!) then I don't see why you shouldn't at least try it :)

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Tuesday, July 22nd 2014, 1:57am

Does the m60 really need the hb? It feels ... perfect with stubby and laser. Heck dont even really need the stubby Its only on because i felt strange running without an attachment


Not really but if you can handle the recoil (easier than you'd think with the fire rate!) then I don't see why you shouldn't at least try it :)

I say scrap the Heavy Barrel and leave it as is, Suppress if you want, or apply the Flash Hider when you earn it. The Heavy Barrel just complicates the ease-of-use factor it embelishes; while the accuracy bonus is nice, it's not really necessary for the ranges you'll be engaging in (unless you intend to attempt extensively long range shots).
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the Sebstalder is quiet good since it can 3hit kill at any distanc ,but In my opinion i actually thikn the sweeper is better, its got a really really fast firerate that can beat alll those Noobmaticos, Helregall adn shitguns in close quarters , and its also really accurate out to like l;ong range,. overall great allround gun, jsut my 2$ tho


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Tuesday, July 22nd 2014, 7:11am

I really wish I could just saw off that front post, if I could it'd be my main LMG. Sadly, I cannot, and hence have returned to the M240B.
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Tuesday, July 22nd 2014, 9:13am

I really wish I could just saw off that front post, if I could it'd be my main LMG. Sadly, I cannot, and hence have returned to the M240B.

Lol I agree with the front post... It doesn't bother me on the M4 or M16A4, but on the M60E4 it really annoys me. Also I have found I have more success with the M240B. I like it's better reload, higher ROF and it's higher muzzle velocity when I bipod with it. I can see why people like the M60E4 though and it's a shame they nerfed the muzzle velocity on it a while back.
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Tuesday, July 22nd 2014, 10:46am

Yeah, the front post is atrocious. After initial happiness of unlocking the Holo sight I noticed it still obstructs half of my screen and got back to the iron sights : P

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Tuesday, July 22nd 2014, 1:17pm

I tried this gun out on the practice range and then 10 conquest large matches on the DT maps last night.

I wanted to like it. But in the end it got me killed a lot. Bear in mind as support I play with the QBB-95-1 which is 650 rpm and accurate as a laser but is in theory out damaged by the 60E.

Where I struggled was the bloomin post in the sight. Man it makes it hard to track targets who are at range and the size of the post itself. Even with an rds.

I ran with stubby and compensator. Perhaps I should have gone muzzle brake and stubby. I couldn't cope with the 0.6 vertical recoil. Even bursts of 4 to 6 missed half the rounds. My best results were taking advantage of its 0.5 fsr and tapping out rapid single shots. I basically sniped with it. That was ok.

My kd (I know but it's a measure even if not the best measure) fell from 3:1 to between 1:1 and 2:1 depending on luck and maps.

Just to be sure I wasn't imagining this I went back to the QBB-95-1 and tore it up on propaganda with a 15 kill streak just cos that gun is so damn accurate with 2 to 3 round tapping. I use afg to get my fsr back to approx 1 on that gun.

I want to like the 60E. Perhaps I'm using it wrong. Perhaps I've been spoiled not having to control recoil on the QBB-95-1. Maybe I should play a couple of days on an aek to get used to firing and pulling on the mouse again. I dunno.

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Tuesday, July 22nd 2014, 1:29pm

I ran with stubby and compensator.

Right reasoning; wrong gun.

Try the M249 with a compensator and an ergo or a stubby.

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Tuesday, July 22nd 2014, 6:08pm

Why everybody hatin' on the M60 Iron Sights? The fact that they protrude in front of applicable optics is a clear sign that you must use nothing but the Irons. Why would you mask her natural beauty with such cosmetics?
To Aim Assist or not to Aim Assist, that is the question.

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the Sebstalder is quiet good since it can 3hit kill at any distanc ,but In my opinion i actually thikn the sweeper is better, its got a really really fast firerate that can beat alll those Noobmaticos, Helregall adn shitguns in close quarters , and its also really accurate out to like l;ong range,. overall great allround gun, jsut my 2$ tho


ViperFTW

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Tuesday, July 22nd 2014, 6:32pm

Does the m60 really need the hb? It feels ... perfect with stubby and laser. Heck dont even really need the stubby Its only on because i felt strange running without an attachment


Not really but if you can handle the recoil (easier than you'd think with the fire rate!) then I don't see why you shouldn't at least try it :)

I say scrap the Heavy Barrel and leave it as is, Suppress if you want, or apply the Flash Hider when you earn it. The Heavy Barrel just complicates the ease-of-use factor it embelishes; while the accuracy bonus is nice, it's not really necessary for the ranges you'll be engaging in (unless you intend to attempt extensively long range shots).


Its a taste thing, I do admit, but if you love sniping motherfuckers and you don't mind a bit of extra kick (everyone goes "Hurr durr 0.9 up" but bare in mind that's only with a 570RPM fire rate!) then I'd say go for it :)

And trust me when I say you stop noticing the front post, it sounds stupid but it does go away after a while :P

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Thursday, July 24th 2014, 6:54pm

I've been enlightened? I'm going to try it out today.